Niman

[DarthVala]

Also, the only place you can use Force Crush is after the Jedi meeting on Dantooine. What can be peacefully resolved beyond there? Nothing with Kreia, Sion, or Nihilius, thats for sure.

[Knights&Darths]

Actually Sion was talked to death, Nihilus was defeated by Kreia's deceit and the bond with Visas, and Kreia, well, she ran out of lightsabers, she only let go when she deemed it enough of a defeat and not before it was time for the Exile to leave and nothing more was there to be said. They are all subtle fights even though they involve lightsabers.

[DarthVala]

Actually Sion was talked to death

But you have to fight first to talk him to death.

 

Nihilus was defeated by Kreia's deceit and the bond with Visas

Nihilius was defeated by the Exile, Mandalore, and Visas by brute force.

 

and Kreia, well, she ran out of lightsabers, she only let go when she deemed it enough of a defeat and not before it was time for the Exile to leave and nothing more was there to be said.

What did the exile have to do until then? Use brute force to beat Kreia and then her lightsabers.

[Knights&Darths]

As I have said, they are all subtle fights even though they involve lightsabers. Raw strength is nothing compared to the power of one's will.

[DarthVala]

As I have said, they are all subtle fights even though they involve lightsabers. Raw strength is nothing compared to the power of one's will.

 

...and the ability to break ones will, through brute force.

[DeathScepter]

Brute Force WILL always have a place in one's own stragety but having the wisdom to apply it will give you more power than you know.

 

 

 

 

Just because you can; it doesn't mean you should use it.

[SilentScope001]

Force Enlightment gives you all buffs, making you a Jedi powerhouse. They only aid you in fighting via brute force...

 

Just like Force Crush. Bah. Stupid Jedi and Sith, both using Brute Force.

 

Anyway, you only talk to Sion to break his will subtly, so that it would be easier to use brute force to subdue him.

 

Kreia won that battle against The Exile, because Kreia wanted to be killed anyway via brute force.

 

And Nihilus, well, the Exile can stand there and watch Nihlius punch himself to death by that ForceDrain that makes him weak by draining a wound in the Force.

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In K3, we should have more options of battling OTHER than just using brute force. I know how fun it is to stab lightsabers into people, but somehow, can we find other ways of winning the game? Please?

[DarthVala]

I'm glad that someone agrees with my point of view.

[Purgatorio]

But it ends in death either way, so why not have fun while killing? Instead of moping about because your still alive you should be making more enemies, and spreading their giblets for the birds. Killing is an expression of the abstract.

[DarthVala]

Another who agrees!!

[DeathScepter]

you for the win.

Edited February 14, 2007 by DeathScepter

[DarthVala]

Check and mate!

 

Well, I (technically) used brute force to sway you all over to my point of view. Guess that just proves my point farther.

[DeathScepter]

no i got tired of arguing..............................

[DarthVala]

Still brute force. Thats what happens to the enemy, their strength and vitality decreases because of the brute force attack. Nobody can hold out against a continuous attack forever.

[Knights&Darths]

The point is not having others say "yes, you're right", the point is getting your message across, and it did.

[DarthVala]

Well, its a moral victory if I can get others to see it the way I do. This would be extremely important in a game setting, as other people around you using brute force is definately helpful.

[DeathScepter]

Well Brute strength is just one part of an entire stragety. But Solely relying on brute strength is in and of itself a weakness.

 

 

 

The entire playfield must be consider before apply any tactic.

 

 

 

 

Yang to their Yin and Yin to their yang.

 

 

 

Niman is more about a state of mind and relying on one's intuition in combat. For Combat is ever changing always chaotic.

 

 

 

So more well balance you are in the ways of combat you are more adaptable to feel the ebb and flow of combat.

Edited February 15, 2007 by DeathScepter

[Landiskan]

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet

 

p.s. I like Soresu myself.

Edited February 20, 2007 by Landiskan