Another NWN2 Movie

[J.E. Sawyer]

No, it (BG) didn't have faux combat animations, unless you mean regular attack animations when you weren't actually attacking. Personally, I always thought that was pretty lame because without surgically wiring the combat log into my brain, it wasn't clear when my character was actually making attacks and when the character was just killing time. NWN2 characters do not block, but they do dodge/duck and play weapon fidgets. I did write up a bug a while ago about how combat fidgets are not pronounced enough and not playing often enough for all weapon sets. Some weapon sets have good fidgets, but others are too subtle.

[Arkan]

Personally, I always thought that was pretty lame because without surgically wiring the combat log into my brain, it wasn't clear when my character was actually making attacks and when the character was just killing time..

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Or turning on the combat stats/feedback.

 

So tell us...how old is this video?

Edited September 30, 2006 by Arkan

[Llyranor]

Looks fine to me. I could care less if that's how the animations end up.

 

1 month to go :ph34r:

[metadigital]

Did anyone else notice that the voice-over from the Fort Locke soldier:

"... Now, we'll be taking your tail as a prize." versus "... Now, you've gone and changed our minds." (11:19 into the video).

 

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Btw, I prefer to have accurate animations for each attack, with pauses: this is not a real-time combat simulation FPS, it is a turn-based game. (I'll have it on overhead view, anyway.)

[Llyranor]

Did anyone else notice that the voice-over from the Fort Locke soldier:

"... Now, we'll be taking your tail as a prize." versus "... Now, you've gone and changed our minds."

 

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Yeah, KOTOR2 had a decent number of corrections like that. I guess they just changed the writing after it had already been recorded.

[metadigital]

But the voice-over is better ...

[J.E. Sawyer]

Or turning on the combat stats/feedback.

 

So tell us...how old is this video?

Do you find it easy to track events in the feedback window when there are ten 8th-12th level combatants going at it? I don't.

 

I also have no idea how old this video is because I have no idea what build it is. I know that a while ago Atari sent out a bunch of Beta candidate copies for European reviews, but it will be another half hour before the video is done downloading.

[Llyranor]

Yeah, I dunno

 

If anything, differences between the writing and the VA jump at me more than the lack of combat fidgets. KOTOR having some nice animations didn't stop the combat from being atrocious.

[J.E. Sawyer]

There were a lot of text/VO mismatches in older builds. We've been gradually catching and fixing them all. Also, a lot of the VO was re-recorded for mis-matches and general quality control.

[Arkan]

Or turning on the combat stats/feedback.

 

So tell us...how old is this video?

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Do you find it easy to track events in the feedback window when there are ten 8th-12th level combatants going at it? I don't.

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The last thing I would worry about in a situation like that is which animation represented which attack. Too much going on on the screen, let alone the feedback window. I'm not sure what your point is.

[Llyranor]

There were a lot of text/VO mismatches in older builds.  We've been gradually catching and fixing them all.  Also, a lot of the VO was re-recorded for mis-matches and general quality control.

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Cool. Good to know. It wasn't to the point of being remotely annoying, but it did stand out in KOTOR2.

[Slowtrain]

The combat animations don't bother me. In my experience once you start playing a game, the graphics and animations begin to normalize. You become used to them and begin to expect them and after a while they look fine.

 

It's always a problem looking at screenies and short gameplay movies without the context of your own interaction with the game.

[metadigital]

There were a lot of text/VO mismatches in older builds.  We've been gradually catching and fixing them all.  Also, a lot of the VO was re-recorded for mis-matches and general quality control.

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So the entire dialogue tree of the tiefling has been re-recorded ..? "

[Judge Hades]

There were a lot of text/VO mismatches in older builds.  We've been gradually catching and fixing them all.  Also, a lot of the VO was re-recorded for mis-matches and general quality control.

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Cool.

 

Not that the mismatches bothered me to much in KotOR 2. I often played with the subtitles off.

[metadigital]

What is "DEBUG groan" in the skeleton fight?

[J.E. Sawyer]

The last thing I would worry about in a situation like that is which animation represented which attack. Too much going on on the screen, let alone the feedback window. I'm not sure what your point is.

That's five PCs/CNPCs and five opponents in a mid-level game, which isn't that rare.

 

You can efficiently move and direct the actions of your characters when you know where they are on their timers. The best time to move or re-direct them is usually immediately after they've taken an attack because they can launch directly into something else. Also, with dummy attacks, it isn't clear if your character is attacking and missing or just making a dummy attack (without watching the log like a hawk). If animations are divided into ones that are distinctly "real" attacks with weapon trails/hit sparks and combat fidgets that break up the dead space, it's easier to know what's going on by looking at the events rather than the combat log.

 

So the entire dialogue tree of the tiefling has been re-recorded ..? :-"

Actually, yes. A different actress was cast and all of her lines were re-recorded.

[metadigital]

So the entire dialogue tree of the tiefling has been re-recorded ..? "

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Actually, yes. A different actress was cast and all of her lines were re-recorded.

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*And there was much rejoicing!*

[Pidesco]

Does no think of the poor actress' feelings? :'(

 

You are all bastards.

[metadigital]

Yes. Lots of parents were not married at the time of conception for many, many of us.

[J.E. Sawyer]

I'm watching the video now and I'd say it's probably one of our Beta candidates. I'm basing that on the lack of the arrow quiver on the back of the arcane archer in character creation. Also, there's no VO on Daeghun and there's still a long pause after each node of dialogue in the cinematics.

 

Yep, no weapon trails/hit sparks, hit sounds, or combat fidgets in that video. I'm not saying that you're going to be bowled over with amazement when those things are there, but they are in the build now.

[J.E. Sawyer]

Does no think of the poor actress' feelings? :'(

 

You are all bastards.

I'm not saying she was a bad actress; she just wasn't what we wanted for Neeshka.

[metadigital]

Does no think of the poor actress' feelings? :'(

 

You are all bastards.

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I'm not saying she was a bad actress; she just wasn't what we wanted for Neeshka.

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She still got paid.

[Judge Hades]

I'm not saying she was a bad actress; she just wasn't what we wanted for Neeshka.

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Now we know the name of the tiefling! YAY!

 

Tieflings rock.

[metadigital]

I'm watching the video now and I'd say it's probably one of our Beta candidates.  I'm basing that on the lack of the arrow quiver on the back of the arcane archer in character creation.  Also, there's no VO on Daeghun and there's still a long pause after each node of dialogue in the cinematics.

 

Yep, no weapon trails/hit sparks, hit sounds, or combat fidgets in that video.  I'm not saying that you're going to bowled over with amazement when those things are there, but they are in the build now.

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*resumes being extremely excited*

[Judge Hades]

I'm watching the video now and I'd say it's probably one of our Beta candidates.  I'm basing that on the lack of the arrow quiver on the back of the arcane archer in character creation.  Also, there's no VO on Daeghun and there's still a long pause after each node of dialogue in the cinematics.

 

Yep, no weapon trails/hit sparks, hit sounds, or combat fidgets in that video.  I'm not saying that you're going to be bowled over with amazement when those things are there, but they are in the build now.

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Figured as much. Trust in the Sawyer. The Sawyer is good. Except when it comes to hand grenades...

Edited September 30, 2006 by Judge Hades