thepixiesrock Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 It made me cry because it's a Fallout game not being made with any of the original devs on it. Than it made me laugh because it will fail. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I bet you'll buy it when it comes out though. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I don't dislike Bethesda. They seem to be earnestly trying to create solid games. This is how I feel. The problem with Morrowind/Oblivion for me is that the games feel very superficial. Sure, there's lots of stuff to do, but when you sit down and think about them, all those tasks start to feel pointless. The games in and of themselves do little to convince you otherwise. The problem? NPCs are lifeless. The world is empty. The story is lacking. The writing is bland. Oblivion put great efforts into improving this, but the result is ultimately the same. How to fix the games without removing the open-endedness. The answer is pretty simple. Hire good writers. Make them work on the story and on the NPCs. Hire better designers. Make them comprehend that nonlinearity doesn't just consist of giving you two completely unrelated quests and letting you choose which one to do first. In fact, the answer is VERY simple. What was the difference with the Fallout's, KotOR, or even Jade Empire. Even huge BG2? They all had at least semi-competent writing/stories, and they had at least a remote understanding of semi-multilinear design. Though, it doesn't really seem that Bethesda is willing to admit they have issues on this front, so I doubt anything will be done. After all, Oblivion is their best title yet. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 F3 better have a solid story And none of that "j00 r teh 1" crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 F3 better have a solid story And none of that "j00 r teh 1" crap <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've never seen any game advertise with that phrase. " "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Conroy Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 The Price? The Release Date? The Warnings? "For my ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Hire good writers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Indeed. Have the people who wrote Oblivion now switched over to working on Fallout 3, or is there some new blood? I don't see any reason why a vast world and near-unlimited freedom should be incompatible with a good story, but the existing writers just don't seem able to pull it off. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 F3 better have a solid story And none of that "j00 r teh 1" crap <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've never seen any game advertise with that phrase. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You don't play that many games though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 F3 better have a solid story And none of that "j00 r teh 1" crap <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've never seen any game advertise with that phrase. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Counter-Strike! Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 why a vast world and near-unlimited freedom should be incompatible with a good story It is already proven that this should not be...; look at Freelancer Freedom (altough not all from the beginning) and a great plot (one of the best things of the game... once it is over the game quality sinks ) ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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