Tyrell Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 I was at one thread about what planets you are wanting to see the most. Then I ran across a reply from Craftsman saying "I bet theres the option of re destroying the world.". He said that in regards of what a previous reply said about Dantooine. But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. But as for the evil things we can do in TSL, do you really think they'll be things like destroying a planet? Even besides that, how far do you think Obsidian is going to let us go in terms of DS evil actions. Cause remember they did say that it won't be as thuggish like letting someone die cause you didn't give them a cure or making a whole two groups of family kill themselves cause of....instigating. Hell would there be a part in the game where you can kill one of your party members cause they didn't capitolize on a ceratin task? Vader style. "You have failed me for the last time...." What are your thoughts? PlayMoreConsoles TheForce.net
Darth Sirius Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 I was at one thread about what planets you are wanting to see the most. Then I ran across a reply from Craftsman saying "I bet theres the option of re destroying the world.". He said that in regards of what a previous reply said about Dantooine. But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. But as for the evil things we can do in TSL, do you really think they'll be things like destroying a planet? Even besides that, how far do you think Obsidian is going to let us go in terms of DS evil actions. Cause remember they did say that it won't be as thuggish like letting someone die cause you didn't give them a cure or making a whole two groups of family kill themselves cause of....instigating. Hell would there be a part in the game where you can kill one of your party members cause they didn't capitolize on a ceratin task? Vader style. What are your thoughts? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i totally agree mate, i would love to do things "vader style" and he has got style mwahahahaha :ph34r:
Darth Sirius Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> the devs did say that i think. and yes i felt exactley the same about the sense of power
Ivan the Terrible Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 If Obsidian lets me blow up a planet, I shall name my first child in their honor. Then he/she will track them down years later and kill them all for the suffering and abuse he/she faced as a child. (BTW, that's another example of an insidious Dark Side plot rather than a thuggish one.) I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Darth Sirius Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 If Obsidian lets me blow up a planet, I shall name my first child in their honor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it may be just me being a c**t but that would make my decade B)
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 We do not condone the murder of planets in K2. I mean, hasn't there been enough death? Hasn't there been enough destruction?
Meshugger Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I was at one thread about what planets you are wanting to see the most. Then I ran across a reply from Craftsman saying "I bet theres the option of re destroying the world.". He said that in regards of what a previous reply said about Dantooine. But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. But as for the evil things we can do in TSL, do you really think they'll be things like destroying a planet? Even besides that, how far do you think Obsidian is going to let us go in terms of DS evil actions. Cause remember they did say that it won't be as thuggish like letting someone die cause you didn't give them a cure or making a whole two groups of family kill themselves cause of....instigating. Hell would there be a part in the game where you can kill one of your party members cause they didn't capitolize on a ceratin task? Vader style. "You have failed me for the last time...." What are your thoughts? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, i agree on that one. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Jedi Master D Murda Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Your mind is really deep on this game Tyrell. I agree with you. I was thinking about maybe something close to a master plan like Sidious had. Hopefully sinister is something the devs really worked on for this game.
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 We do not condone the murder of planets in K2. I mean, hasn't there been enough death? Hasn't there been enough destruction? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have to agree with you on that one. Didn't they also say that destruction would be more on a personal level than on a large scale level?
Dead Skin Mask Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 If Obsidian lets me blow up a planet, I shall name my first child in their honor. Then he/she will track them down years later and kill them all for the suffering and abuse he/she faced as a child. (BTW, that's another example of an insidious Dark Side plot rather than a thuggish one.) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :D :D :D Good one Ivan I think it would be awsome to torture and even kill your party members for their failures. PC: Atton you have stolen Kreia's vibrating pink lightsaber for the last time! Atton: *Choke* *Snap* PC: Take him away. Also I would like to be able to torture my NPC's into turning to the Dark side. This would be a great feat for the Sith Lord class IMO. More devious ways of manipulating people in TSL would be a welcome change as well. Some of these clever manipulations should pay off in the long run and not just immediately like they did in KOTOR. Cheers!
Freedom Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 We do not condone the murder of planets in K2. I mean, hasn't there been enough death? Hasn't there been enough destruction? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have to agree with you on that one. Didn't they also say that destruction would be more on a personal level than on a large scale level? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ... Did you just agree with yourself quoting an unnamed person?
Ever Faith Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I was at one thread about what planets you are wanting to see the most. Then I ran across a reply from Craftsman saying "I bet theres the option of re destroying the world.". He said that in regards of what a previous reply said about Dantooine. But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. But as for the evil things we can do in TSL, do you really think they'll be things like destroying a planet? Even besides that, how far do you think Obsidian is going to let us go in terms of DS evil actions. Cause remember they did say that it won't be as thuggish like letting someone die cause you didn't give them a cure or making a whole two groups of family kill themselves cause of....instigating. Hell would there be a part in the game where you can kill one of your party members cause they didn't capitolize on a ceratin task? Vader style. What are your thoughts? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i totally agree mate, i would love to do things "vader style" and he has got style mwahahahaha :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It'd be cool is you could actually force choke somebody if they aren't talking and you hear then choke like in the movies and stuff. Thus avoiding a battle with a more sinister way. Or even force choking them and throwing them against a wall. Let them go and interogate them some more or something. Evolutionary Development
ampulator00 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I was at one thread about what planets you are wanting to see the most. Then I ran across a reply from Craftsman saying "I bet theres the option of re destroying the world.". He said that in regards of what a previous reply said about Dantooine. But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. But as for the evil things we can do in TSL, do you really think they'll be things like destroying a planet? Even besides that, how far do you think Obsidian is going to let us go in terms of DS evil actions. Cause remember they did say that it won't be as thuggish like letting someone die cause you didn't give them a cure or making a whole two groups of family kill themselves cause of....instigating. Hell would there be a part in the game where you can kill one of your party members cause they didn't capitolize on a ceratin task? Vader style. What are your thoughts? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i totally agree mate, i would love to do things "vader style" and he has got style mwahahahaha :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It'd be cool is you could actually force choke somebody if they aren't talking and you hear then choke like in the movies and stuff. Thus avoiding a battle with a more sinister way. Or even force choking them and throwing them against a wall. Let them go and interogate them some more or something. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Man, I can just see the possibility of Persuade/Force Persuade/Choke.
TSAdmiral Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 The most sinister thing the first game allowed us to do was to kill our party members. Killing Mission and Zaalbar was really the epitome of your evil deeds, whereas everything else reminded me of your typical bully. You were never given the option to usurp power or anything dramatic. And since you had nothing more than your party, nothing grand was possible. You were never given some grand "take over the galaxy plans". It would be great if as a Sith you are given the option of formulating multiple game long plans to achieve your ends. The multiple plans will help replay value. As well as short sub-plot schemes that leave a mark on the game in a long term dynamic manner.
ampulator00 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 The most sinister thing the first game allowed us to do was to kill our party members. Killing Mission and Zaalbar was really the epitome of your evil deeds, whereas everything else reminded me of your typical bully. You were never given the option to usurp power or anything dramatic. And since you had nothing more than your party, nothing grand was possible. You were never given some grand "take over the galaxy plans". It would be great if as a Sith you are given the option of formulating multiple game long plans to achieve your ends. The multiple plans will help replay value. As well as short sub-plot schemes that leave a mark on the game in a long term dynamic manner. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's all good, but the bottom line is "grand evil", not bullying and mindless killing.
Jedi Master D Murda Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 The most sinister thing the first game allowed us to do was to kill our party members. Killing Mission and Zaalbar was really the epitome of your evil deeds, whereas everything else reminded me of your typical bully. You were never given the option to usurp power or anything dramatic. And since you had nothing more than your party, nothing grand was possible. You were never given some grand "take over the galaxy plans". It would be great if as a Sith you are given the option of formulating multiple game long plans to achieve your ends. The multiple plans will help replay value. As well as short sub-plot schemes that leave a mark on the game in a long term dynamic manner. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, exactly. If you had a plan to "take over" anything from the start of the game, as a Sith ofcourse, you would have to move things forward throughout game until you realize your ultimate goal.
TSAdmiral Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Yes of course. It must be "grand evil" on a large scale involving politics and power. But it would be great if there was an Easter Egg to rack up dark side points by stealing candy from a baby. Namely a baby named "Bioware."
Grand_Commander13 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 It's kinda hard to think of ideas for good darksided things to do that aren't thuggish. Among the good ones that come to mind: *Misleading people, convincing them to do evil things (such as telling a kid to run away from their parents by making them think their parents hate them). *Gently blackmailing people. ("Well Mr.Senator, I'd be more than happy to make sure the public never hears of your trying to contract an assassin to kill that Sith mole (NOTE: An upstanding member of the community, but is really working for the Sith.), but first I need a little measure (NOTE: Bad for the Republic.) to pass...") *Taking slaves. *Encouraging bigotry and hatred. *Secretly hurting others so they have to come to you asking for aid (and they don't know it's you harming them, either). Generally things to make all the Sith academy people look like total brutish n00Bz with no imagination or drive for power. Curious about the subraces in Pillars of Eternity? Check out
ampulator00 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Generally things to make all the Sith academy people look like total brutish n00Bz with no imagination or drive for power. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Except for Uthar and Yuthura Ban. But then again, they vastily underestimated Revan and his alllies/friends. They were beaten badly.
Grand_Commander13 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Dude, do you really have to quote my entire post just to respond to the last line? Anyway, I want to be able to be cruel to the lightsided members of my party. Like, if there's a Missionish character in the party, I want to be able to terrify her into submission to my evil. That would be truly dark. Curious about the subraces in Pillars of Eternity? Check out
-Master of All- Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 ^ "Grand Commander"??? Sounds like the Master of All has some competition.
ampulator00 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Dude, do you really have to quote my entire post just to respond to the last line? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was just lazy at editing and deleting. I modfied it, if you are happy.
Craigboy2 Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I was at one thread about what planets you are wanting to see the most. Then I ran across a reply from Craftsman saying "I bet theres the option of re destroying the world.". He said that in regards of what a previous reply said about Dantooine. But that got me to thinking, what are going to be some of the evil things we'll be able to do in TSL? Didn't the devs say that they are trying to make the DS options more sinister rather then thuggish or bullyish? In KOTOR I did some pretty evil things but I didn't have that....sense of power. Like Darth Sidious or Darth Vader. Being Revan that added more cause I knew how evil my background was. But as for the evil things we can do in TSL, do you really think they'll be things like destroying a planet? Even besides that, how far do you think Obsidian is going to let us go in terms of DS evil actions. Cause remember they did say that it won't be as thuggish like letting someone die cause you didn't give them a cure or making a whole two groups of family kill themselves cause of....instigating. Hell would there be a part in the game where you can kill one of your party members cause they didn't capitolize on a ceratin task? Vader style. "You have failed me for the last time...." What are your thoughts? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> or you could threaten your party members and you can use choke on them when thet fail, and when they're about to die you let go, and if you party members leave you can go after them or send your party members on them or even put a bounty on there head so they can die! "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
Ersinus Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I want to be able to turn my party members to evil characters and those who resist or dont want to join me to kill. and in the ending i want my evil henchmen beside me. i was very dissapointed when i finished KOTOR with DS and didnt see Canderous as the new admiral of the Sith fleet.
Ever Faith Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I never finished Kyyshack(sp?) dark but it would've been nice if you could take two wookies as slaves,and put them in to the ship and them sell them later on in the game or even force pursude them to kill somebody or something. Evolutionary Development
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