Wasn't PS:T merely (1) Discover you can't die, and have amnesia.  (2) Learn about your past (3) confront your past?

 

 

Fallout 1 was merely (1) Your home people are in danger (2) save your home people (3) Go one step further and save teh whole world by killing teh evil mutants.

 

Fallout 2 was (1) Your home people are in danger (2) save your home people (3) Find out your home people were kidnapped, so go one step further and save teh whole world by killing teh evil Enclave.

 

Baldur's Gate (1) Mentor dies...you are sad (2) Realize that people insist on trying to kill you (3) Find out source of those sending people to kill you (4) Kill that person

 

Baldur's Gate 2: (1) Childhood friend gets kidnapped...you are sad  (2) Realize that people insist on trying to kill you.  (3) Find the source of that which tries to kill you  (4) Kill that person.

 

This is kind of fun actually

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If you leave out the sub-plots in them, then pretty much.

 

In Planescape: Torment, those may have been the fundamentals, but through the course of the narrative you discover how the actions through your previous incarnations have effected the people you run into, and learn their stories. There was also complexity in the plot itself, considering the freedom you have to form your own protagonist. There are also plenty of other happenings in the gameworld with their own bits of history.

 

Same can basically be applied to the two Fallout games and the Baldur's gate series. They all have fairly simple overall plots, but most of the story elements unravel through non-plot specific points in the game.

 

As for Diablo, that wasn't really the case. You had the overall mission to kill the demons to go on for story and a few shallow sidequest tales.

I like most game genres really, so my loathing of Diabloish games isn't just about CRPGs, but it's representative of the rendundancy in video games all together.  Frankly, I do like the hobby, but if that's what the future holds; if that's all people really want, I'm done with them. 

Totally irrelevant, but that's is pretty much how I feel about the movie/TV industry.

Hah...Diablos has generic characters?! I wanna taste mushrooms you gouge on.

I disagree about Baldur's Gate. As far as I'm concerned, the only story elements came from the plot.

BG and Diablo, big deal. I thoroughly enjoy playing those games, they have a good story, characters, et cetera and that is all that matters to me.

I disagree about Baldur's Gate.  As far as I'm concerned, the only story elements came from the plot.

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I dunno about that.

Diablo had a story?

 

Could have surprised me. It was just one zerg fested dungeon after another with phat loot. Boring.

Fun. Enjoyment. Passes the time.

Diablo had a story? 

 

Could have surprised me.  It was just one zerg fested dungeon after another with phat loot.  Boring.

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Every game has a story.

 

Even pong had a story.

It sure did.

Tetris definitely has the best story of any video game though.

Ah Tetris.

Diablo had a story? 

 

Could have surprised me.  It was just one zerg fested dungeon after another with phat loot.  Boring.

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If you don't think Diablo had a story, then you clearly weren't paying any attention.

 

You can argue all you want about whether or not the story is any good. But implying that it didn't have a story is just false.

Tetris and Pong had stories?

Tetris and Pong had stories? 

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Yes

I can't remember if pong did. But I never really played pong.

 

I'm pretty sure Tetris did, but I have no idea what it is anymore.

It was superficial and irrelevant to the game so as far I am concerned it had no story.

Oblivion vibes again!

"If you don't think Diablo had a story, then you clearly weren't paying any attention.

 

You can argue all you want about whether or not the story is any good. But implying that it didn't have a story is just false."

 

It ha snothing to do with 'paying attention'. That's just your holier than thou attitude spekaing. The bottom line is that Diablo's story did not matter so, in essence, the story didn't exist at all.

 

No one plays Diablo for the story. No one.

I forgot. You like to use your own definitions of words and apply them in your own specific way.

 

/me smacks self.

"If you don't think Diablo had a story, then you clearly weren't paying any attention.

 

You can argue all you want about whether or not the story is any good. But implying that it didn't have a story is just false."

 

It ha snothing to do with 'paying attention'. That's just your holier than thou attitude spekaing. The bottom line is that Diablo's story did not matter so, in essence, the story didn't exist at all.

 

No one plays Diablo for the story. No one.

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I did

I forgot.  You like to use your own definitions of words and apply them in your own specific way.

 

/me smacks self.

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I strive to maintain a certain continuity in being an irrational twit.

"If you don't think Diablo had a story, then you clearly weren't paying any attention.

 

You can argue all you want about whether or not the story is any good. But implying that it didn't have a story is just false."

 

It ha snothing to do with 'paying attention'. That's just your holier than thou attitude spekaing. The bottom line is that Diablo's story did not matter so, in essence, the story didn't exist at all.

 

No one plays Diablo for the story. No one.

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But you did.

 

GAME OVER!

Tetris and Pong had stories? 

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Yes

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Well, what were they? I'm actually interested.

It was superficial and irrelevant to the game so as far I am concerned it had no story.

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I didn't think it was superficial and irrelevant. In fact, it really isn't. It's there for the sake of advancing the game, true, yet the primary purpose of the story in any RPG is to do just that.

No one plays Diablo for the story. No one.

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Yes I did.