Judge Hades Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) Most powerful artifact in the world and he just stoled it? That is a little contived there. Also the betrayals in the Bioware games made sense. Predictable but made sense. First off there was no plasuible reason for the main baddie to know that he had "the most powrful artifact in the world" secondly, and more importantly, "the most powerful artifact inthe world" wouldn't be something that a 1st level character should be able to steal. Edited May 13, 2006 by Judge Hades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) Before NWN, I barely knew what on line play was. LOL Now, it's cool. :cool: "They mentioned QA and stuff didn't used DM client for the making of NWN2 so it really is not that much needed or something." I don't care. I, and others, do use it to test. And, it is needed for those thousands of epople who play PWs and small DMed groups. Might be a minority; but it's a sizeable minorty. Of course the problem is many on line players (like me) also like SP so they got us by the ballz. Just like those whining about the length before, theywer egonna buy the game anyways even if it was 20 hours long. Right Eldar? Edited May 13, 2006 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) Why wouldn Edited May 13, 2006 by Hassat Hunter ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Why wouldn This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 No, you're wrong. It makes perfect sense. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMethos Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 After looking at the screens at GameSpot.com, I have to say I hope this will be a complete game. I am very impressed with the level of detail and lighting attention. As a life-artist myself, I am very impressed with the level of detail found in this game. It would be a shame to see another game produced by the same company being released incomplete. I pray that someone is watching, and I hope they don't drop the ball. I have never seen a game with this much detail before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 That is a valid way of showing disapproval but a game's first few weeks of sells are often the most vital. If it has poor sales then Atari twill thik it is a lost cause and end its support for the game and without their support Obsidian will not be able to patch NWN 2 or even release the DM Client via patch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then you get lucky by not wasting money on a product that doesn't have a feature you want. If you do wait for it, and it does come out, a spike in sales immediately after its release serves as an indicator for our important this feature is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) It's not clear cut for everyone. Not for me to be sure. 'Cause while I want the DMC, there's other parts of the game I really want like the OC for example. Then all you have to do is decide if the lack of DMC outweighs the rest of the package. If you think you'll still get your money's worth without the DMC, then you should probably buy it. But you seem to have already made your decision anyways. The DMC is not as important for you. Edited May 13, 2006 by alanschu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Exactly. Just like I would likely have bought the game even without the OC... a decision I *never* would have made before NWN1 when I didn't give a woop about mper or toolsets or dmc and all that. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) They mentioned QA and stuff didn't used DM client for the making of NWN2 so it really is not that much needed or something. It makes me wonder if they actually gonna QA-test the DM Client before offering it for download or just dump it on us when done. [insert Alanschu post about how conversing something from one engine to another might ruin everything]; with all consequences that that could give... I wasn't going to comment, but since you baited me into it, I will. You clearly have zero idea what it means to be in QA, and are unequivocally unqualified to make any statements about it. Edited May 13, 2006 by alanschu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) I do know that if a function is not in retail and is forced to come later it also needs testing. If it is done beyond release date and then still needs it's testing it might take longer than the month or so the gang here hopes for and since that would hurt sales/rep/game longetivity they may decide to just drop it as soon as they are fairly done. Ofcourse assuming the DM Client is delayed because there has to be coding to do on it, not an immensive amount of testing (and fixing the findings) only; which; by the sound of it is the case... Edited May 13, 2006 by Hassat Hunter ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 The only person who's ever said anything about a month is me. And I only used it as an example. No one has any idea on when the DMC patch will be released. Could be days after release (remember, the gold copy goes out something like two weeks before the game hits retail) and it could be months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Erm, yeah, no one important's given any estimate yet. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hassat is right. The primary lesson for KotOR 2 was not release an incomplete game. WHat are they doing with NWN 2? Releasing an incomplete game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> More like another rushed game. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 2+ years is rushed? WHAT!?! It's not rushed; just poor time management at all. I know how that feels. :D DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Same end result. An incomplete game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowstrider Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Yutz. What difference does it make whether they release the DM client at launch and patch to fix later or release it some time later? So long as it has no added cost, what do you have to gripe about? They're not releasing an incomplete game. They're completing the game with a full toolset, and then adding new bells and whistles afterwards. I know it's too much to ask, but you really should think things through before you go on a rant about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Sorry, but the DM Client is part of the Neverwinter Nights software and releasing the game without it makes it an incomplete game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Boohoo, we'll get to play NWN2 before Hades. Win-win. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 No, we get to play NWN 1.85 before Hades. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 I thought it would be 1.75, that DM Client equals to be a quarter, yes? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Boohoo, we'll get to play NWN2 before Hades. Win-win. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You guys play a lot of games before me. What makes NWN 2 special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 10-30% make use, in some way, of the MP/toolset/DM stuff and since the DMC is used the elast I gave it a modest 15% total... Besdies, Obsidian surely doens't rank it as important as 25%... unlike BIO who knew what NWN series was about - the whole package including DMing ala pnp. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 10-30% make use, in some way, of the MP/toolset/DM stuff and since the DMC is used the elast I gave it a modest 15% total... Besdies, Obsidian surely doens't rank it as important as 25%... unlike BIO who knew what NWN series was about - the whole package including DMing ala pnp. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How sad. I will not sleep well tonight knowing this. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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