stonebrain Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I bought KotOR 2 when it first came out. I played it up to about the 30 hour mark, and then I just lost interest for the longest time. It's been about a year since I picked the game up, but I started playing it this weekend again. Anyhow, I finished the whole story all the way up to the end on Malachor V. I beat the floating lightsabers Kreia sends at you. I had a saved game right before I went in to fight her so I could see different endings...only, everytime I try to pick different options, the ending is still the same. Yet, even so, this is not what confuses me. What confuses me is all the open-endedness of the other characters. What happens with G0-T0 and the Remote, who are waiting for your command? What about Mandalore and Bao Dur and everyone else? Unless they all died when the Ebon Hawk fell into the canyon on Malachor's surface, then I'm confused. Why would G0-T0 and the Remote wait for my command, and then the game ends, and you never know what happens? I was really disappointed by the ending of this game...KotOR 1's was much better, especially on the dark side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 There is an alternate Dark Side ending, but it isn't all that different. It's unclear when exactly you make your LS/DS choice, but if I were to venture a guess, I'd say it depends on how you respond the meeting with the jedi masters (do you kill them or accept their ruling...) The reason why the companions all seem to just vanish from the plot is that Lucasarts pushed the deadline, which forced Obsidian to cut a lot of stuff from the game, including all the resolutions for the companions and a bunch of other stuff. It all became the infamous cut content, which you can find numerous references to. Fortunately, a group is restoring the cut content, so that we might play it one day. Look at this topic and follow the links to their site. The restoration project seems to be coming along nicely. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_j1_ Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 i think that killing the masters or not only affects what happens when u return to dantooine. its if u choose to kill krea or not that affects the ending i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 i think that killing the masters or not only affects what happens when u return to dantooine. its if u choose to kill krea or not that affects the ending i think <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I doubt that, since I always got the same ending the first time around, no matter whether I decided to kill her or listen to her and attempt redemption. Besides, killing the masters gives you Force Crush (a DS power), whereas accepting their judgement (and then having Kreia interrupt) gives you Enlightenment (a LS power). The distinction there could have some effect on the final outcome. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 many thing effect it, whether you chose to join the darkside (when kreia asks you) or lightside, hence what you do to the jedi masters, kill or follow - you can also 'manipulate' your party members differently what you do in the end is effected by what you have done throughout the whole game, unlike in k1 how on rakata prime you get to chose your true destiny (which is up to you) the game is slowly effected in every planet, by all your actions if your the lightside you kill kreia and the ebon hawk flies off malachor 5 with its destruction, naturally assuming that you didnt kill the jedi, and that kreia did, or the DS ending, where you keep the dark lord of the sith throne or whatever (i havent accually done the DS ending... yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Cunnysmythe Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I think the ending just depends on your alignment when you reach Dantooine. On my second DS playthrough, I spared the Jedi Masters and still got the DS ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 if you have ever killed a jedi, but saved the rest your considered DS, i killed (didnt want to) kavaar on onderan, accidentally siding with general tobin or whoever he was, and then forced to kill kavaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilandra Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 An open ending? I found it stupid and incomplete. I go through Kreia's banter on what happens to my companions, toss her sorry ass down the abyss and the next thing I know they show the Ebon Hawk flying away. Like WTF? Through inner peace leads to enlightenment. Baldur's Gate Modding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikon Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 It's unclear when exactly you make your LS/DS choiceWith the exception of the Rebuilt Enclave scene (which depends on whether you killed the Masters or not, regardless of your alignment), everything in the game is controlled by your immediate alignment. There is no global turning point like following/not following dark Bastila in K1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-47_THE_MEATBAG_KILLER Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 thats one of the things i liked about TSL, the lightside/darkside endings are based on all of your choices throughout the game, rather than just one. in K1, you can have lightside mastery but drop to the darkside in one decision, giving you a darkside ending...not very probable. "Are you an angel? Aw, I'm just kidding. That's the worst line I've ever used. Hope some poor kid doesn't start using it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 exactly, good thing about TSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthReliguim Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think was a good ending. Leaves you wanting more doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think was a good ending. Leaves you wanting more doesn't it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dramatically and plotwise, yes, but that doesn't come across well the first time you see it, at least it didn't for me. Like the poster of this topic, I was more like "WTF?!?" Then I played it again. And again. And I read through the text in the dialog.tlk file. It helped a lot, and plotwise it's solid in the same way Ep. V was, but even so it still hurts the game that the ending was cut to pieces - the end result is a horribly scarred and unfinished game. I don't mind an open ending (like "Empire Strikes Back"), but I do mind an unfinished one. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 and its all lucas arts fault... if you listen to the jedi masters, they explain the "hunger" about you. it clears up a lot... "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 and its all lucas arts fault... if you listen to the jedi masters, they explain the "hunger" about you. it clears up a lot... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know, but there is a lot of confusion about it. I speculate that some this was going to be left open for K3, but if that was the case, then that point was lost as well among all the other cut content... Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I think I will try ones to end up with an absolute grey alignment. Like when you have 50 in the goodevil meter in KSE. See how that would work. Hmm, maybe the game crashes then??!! Or would there be an hidden ending? Probably not. Master Vandar lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I tried. it plays the light side ending even if you are grey... tht sucks. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 the mysteries of the kotor2 ending.... yes it was open ended, and im sure it would been longer if obsidian had more time to work on kotor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 we've known that for 2 years now, revan. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 O RLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I think this thread has ran it's course. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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