ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I'd maybe buy this, if the original poster asked the question. It's your own fault for thinking Steve's question was anything more than what it actually said. Besides, the thread was about a Jade Empire easter egg in HotU, not about Easter Eggs in items. You're just trying to save face. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If thats what you want to think be my guest. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Hooray! A conclusion! OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Jade Empire's equipment system was very poor. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 But it existed! (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Barely. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 It's because people who play consoles don't have opposable thumbs to pick up items. PS: Wasn't Lou Gutman the name that I made fun of Hildegarde with? Well, he posted something about Lou, and I went on about how he totally just bashed some benevolent dude in New York? The name sounds familiar..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lou Gutman OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Jade Empire's equipment system was very poor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It probably had an ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 So I was randomly strolling through Drearing's Deep causally pwning cultist scum, when I looted this sword off some d00d's cold, dead hands: Sneaky Bio. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 When Alanshu is backing me up in this type of silly argument all is lost for our enmies. Anyways, JE's equipment system wasn't 'very poor'. The fact it got rid of useless junk that you mostly find in, say, HOTU or either KOTOR is a welcomed change. Both systems are fine. A very poor equipment system is TOEE's where identifying an item means iding it by name only. LOL As for easter eggs for future BIO games in JE; I don't recall any. But, then again, I'm not one to stalk equipment des riptions or anything else for that matter for easter eggs. I don't play games for easter eggs. They don't turn me. That said, they can be cool when found or pointed out though. :cool: DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 In many of the CRPGs I play I use equipment to personalize how my character looks and the style in which I play them. In NWN, typically the short sword is more powerful weapon but I like playing a halfling that dual wields daggers. In the KotORs I use various armors to personalize my characters and NPCs. In Jade Empire there is no significant way to personalize characters. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Anybody know what kind of Easters (if any) Obs will be putting into their games? Not just another tombstone for Feargus I hope. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 "In Jade Empire there is no significant way to personalize characters." Yes, there is. The way you treat others (ie. role-playing), the way you complete quests (ie. role-playing), what weapons/styles used, how you interact through the various dialogue skills, the Gem Medallion. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Volourn, that is only part of the picture, not the whole. What is the difference between a person using the Tiger Shen model with Legendary Strike with another Tiger Shen model using Legendary Strike? None whatsoever. Also the whole Gem thing only adds in minor effects and not wholely necessary. Lastly, how one role plays thecharacter has no effect on how the character looks like. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumo Joe Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Does it really matter that you can't customize your character's look for one game? It's not a big deal that you can't look exactly how you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) Yes, it is. When I make my character I want to control every aspect. How he looks, what he wears, what equipment he uses, what skills he knows, and so forth and so on. I want the character to be mine. Edited March 6, 2006 by 6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Yes, it is. When I make my character I want to control every aspect. How he looks, what he wears, what equipment he uses, what skills he knows, and so forth and so on. I want the character to be mine. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then why play CRPGs? Your bestest CRPG game ever has piss poor character visuals. Even today with amazing 3D graphics, there's still rather restrictive limits on how character can look. Is it even really possible to have a character "be yours" in a CRPG anyways? IMO there's waaaaaay to finite avenues to explore in any CRPG, excepting maybe a game like Morrowind. In Fallout I have to be THE vault dweller, and in Fallout 2, I have to be the vault dweller's decendant. Baldur's Gate => Bhaalspawn. Morrowind's pretty open, in that you're just a prisoner being put on an island. Gothic series is a bit more open as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lare Kikkeli Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) Yes, it is. When I make my character I want to control every aspect. How he looks, what he wears, what equipment he uses, what skills he knows, and so forth and so on. I want the character to be mine. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then why play CRPGs? Your bestest CRPG game ever has piss poor character visuals. Even today with amazing 3D graphics, there's still rather restrictive limits on how character can look. Is it even really possible to have a character "be yours" in a CRPG anyways? IMO there's waaaaaay to finite avenues to explore in any CRPG, excepting maybe a game like Morrowind. In Fallout I have to be THE vault dweller, and in Fallout 2, I have to be the vault dweller's decendant. Baldur's Gate => Bhaalspawn. Morrowind's pretty open, in that you're just a prisoner being put on an island. Gothic series is a bit more open as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why do you even bother with him? Edited March 6, 2006 by Lare Kikkeli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I'm bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Then why play CRPGs? Because I like CRPGs. Your bestest CRPG game ever has piss poor character visuals. Even today with amazing 3D graphics, there's still rather restrictive limits on how character can look. Not completely restrictive. I mean Jade Empire is very restrictive but Fallout wasn't with the various armors, and the BG games you had various armors and colors to choose from as well as voice sets. NWN was very adaptable how one can look like, especially through the use of craft skills. Sure there are restrictions and CRPGs won't ever be completely open but that doesn't mean they should remove the option all together. Is it even really possible to have a character "be yours" in a CRPG anyways? IMO there's waaaaaay to finite avenues to explore in any CRPG, excepting maybe a game like Morrowind. In Fallout I have to be THE vault dweller, and in Fallout 2, I have to be the vault dweller's decendant. Baldur's Gate => Bhaalspawn. Morrowind's pretty open, in that you're just a prisoner being put on an island. Gothic series is a bit more open as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not completely but the more options you can give the player in the form of character development and appearance the better. Such as I felt my character in the NWN expansions was actually my character moreso than the Nameless One in PS:T no matter how I played him. Sure there might be some limitations, for it is a CRPG, but as long as those limitations don't interfere how I design my character I am okay with them. Such as being the Bhaalspawn had no real effect on me making a Halfling FIghter Thief or an Elven Necromancer, but in PS:T I was always the Nameless One with no choice of race, gender, or what not. Sure the Bhaalspawn background is forced but the overall freedom of gameplay is not hampered like being forced to play the Nameless One. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I dunno. I play role-playing games to play a role; not to play Barbie Dressup. I must be playing wrong genre though if dress up is what my fellow 'role-players' want in their rpgs... DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 May I be the first to recommend this innovative game to Hades: http://thesims.ea.com/ (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 You can truly create your own character. Probably moreso than any CRPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Anybody know what kind of Easters (if any) Obs will be putting into their games? Not just another tombstone for Feargus I hope. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe the designers have a termination wish. " War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I dunno. I play role-playing games to play a role; not to play Barbie Dressup. I must be playing wrong genre though if dress up is what my fellow 'role-players' want in their rpgs... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Drop the Barbie outfit, Volo, and step away from the dresser ...! :D OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 That Volo is a queer fellow. So sayeth Imoen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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