mr insomniac Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I much prefer seeing the way the games change based on my character's influence within it, whether through dialogues or plot development choices, and then have my character's ability to influence the game grow, based on those changes. Still, it is usually a game design that your character must have proper stats to have that influence in the first place... at least in the games I've played. I took this job because I thought you were just a legend. Just a story. A story to scare little kids. But you're the real deal. The demon who dares to challenge God. So what the hell do you want? Don't seem to me like you're out to make this stinkin' world a better place. Why you gotta kill all my men? Why you gotta kill me? Nothing personal. It's just revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I used to post there and go to that site on a daily basis but then one of thier higher ups decided to harass me and his gang of thugs followed suit when this forum opened. The problem was resolved and that was that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You opened up a can of whoop A$$ on 'dem Codex bums! Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Actually, it was probably the other way around. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Its the past and therefore irrelevant. Codexers don't seem to post here any more and I don't post over there. It is a satisfactory arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Actually, it was probably the other way around. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :D Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 I can name a vast array of RPGs where stats aren't useful only for combat, and that's why I say you're completely wrong. I've made no claim where all RPGs only use statistics for combat-related skills; I said "seems" precisely because I know all RPGs don't do this, but instead that's how most "seem" to work. Instead all you seem to do is simply chuck forth a few meaningless self quotations and glip remarks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're right. If the meaning of the word escaped some people the first time, I should've assumed it would keep escaping them. I think the bolded leaves no room for mis-interpretation. And there is nothing about "tending to rely" anything here.. Especially when you add in the word "ONLY" there, it makes it an absolute statement. When I add in the world "SEEMS" before "ONLY", it makes sure it isn't meant to be unquestionably interpreted as an absolute statement. If I'm telling you an acquaintance of ours "seems to only go for the highest stakes in betting games", that's not the same as saying "he only goes for the highest stakes". The former deals with what is apparent or possible but is not (or may not) be absolute, the second strictly deals with what is absolute. Likewise, telling you "it seems we can only go forward" is not the same as telling you "we can only go forward". But I agree with moose, you should be somewhat more willing to clarify your points... especially if people obviously think what you have to say is important enough that they have voluntarily decided to take time to participate in your thread. In fact my taking time to write this shows that I am still interested in the subject of this thread. We could have just ignored your post altogether. I always do my best to clarify my points when people want me to. I quoted a previous statement of mine with a bolded word precisely to do that. Now, if people assume that "seems" is nowhere to be found and that "only" is the only (lolz) word that matters, followed by accusing me of not clarifying that part, I honestly wonder what it is I should be grateful for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Some people just think too highly of themselves to believe they can ever be wrong.. " oh well... Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I can name a vast array of RPGs where stats aren't useful only for combat, and that's why I say you're completely wrong. I've made no claim where all RPGs only use statistics for combat-related skills; I said "seems" precisely because I know all RPGs don't do this, but instead that's how most "seem" to work. And I disagree to that. And I've said why. And yet you still can't accept being wrong. Instead all you seem to do is simply chuck forth a few meaningless self quotations and glip remarks. You're right. If the meaning of the word escaped some people the first time, I should've assumed it would keep escaping them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We all understood. You can keep up with your condescending attitude all you like, but it doesn't change the fact you were wrong, and in the face of it, rather rude in your responses. Really, keep it up. You'll soon find everyone will return the favour and ignore you. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Some people just think too highly of themselves to believe they can ever be wrong.. " oh well... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I thought too highly of myself I would have validated your assumptions and would not try to clarify my points. More than likely I would flat out ignored you. Yet, I did the opposite. You're free to believe what you want regarding the intent behind my actions, though. And I disagree to that. And I've said why. And yet you still can't accept being wrong. I've said why I believe I wasn't wrong by indicating that the word "only" was not used exclusively and that the word "seems" preceding it doesn't allow the phrase to be taken as an absolute. If you can prove me why the word "seems" should not be taken into account then do so, but don't expect me to accept I'm wrong just because you feel like saying so and leaving it at that. Instead all you seem to do is simply chuck forth a few meaningless self quotations and glip remarks. And all you seem to do is repeat the same sentences when lacking anything worthwhile to post. We all understood. You can keep up with your condescending attitude all you like, but it doesn't change the fact you were wrong, and in the face of it, rather rude in your responses. Condescending? I wasn't the one that kept repeating someone was wrong just because, and assuming I owed you something simply because you read my thread. Really, keep it up. You'll soon find everyone will return the favour and ignore you. Since when did you became the mouthpiece of Obsidian's forum users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 What is an RPG? Whatever the individual feels is an RPG to them. I am teh winnah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 What is an RPG? Whatever the individual feels is an RPG to them. I am teh winnah! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give this girl a keg! Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Looks like nobody agrees with you roleplayer. Oh but I guess that's just cos everybody's wrong and you're always right. lol... There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Looks like nobody agrees with you roleplayer. Yes. Nobody, out of two people, agree with me. A truly shocking revelation which will disturb me for years to come. Oh but I guess that's just cos everybody's wrong and you're always right. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 :ph34r: (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Actually, I don't agree with you either, Role-Player. And your tone is condescending. That makes us three! Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) Actually, I don't agree with you either, Role-Player. And your tone is condescending. That makes us three! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure any impartial third party who were to read this entire exchange would think the same thing. Edited February 12, 2006 by Lancer Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Actually, I don't agree with you either, Role-Player. Well, congratulations mkreku. I'll be sure to take a note of that for future reference. Now it only remains to be seen if you agree simply by association, or if instead you actually have an intelligible point to make regarding what was being discussed. And your tone is condescending. That makes us three! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I'm being condescending then that would make us four, since you're not exactly a shinging example of humility. Three people. Wow. You make me cry, people. You really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) I like you Roleplayer.. I really do.. But I do get the impression especially from this thread that you are more than just a little *proud.* Edited February 12, 2006 by Lancer Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 If I'm being condescending then that would make us four, since you're not exactly a shinging example of humility. Three people. Wow. You make me cry, people. You really do. What I don't understand is why you even start a thread when all you do is talk down on the people who participate and happen to blow big holes in your arguments. Are you really that immature that you can't take criticism..? Your writing suggests otherwise, but your replies are.. odd, to say the least. Take the above quote for example. You're ruining what could have been an interesting thread with crap like this (and the crap in the last 10+ posts) because you can't stand being wrong? Because you really had no intention of discussing the matter and instead just troll and bait in your own thread? I don't get it, but after reading through all this junk I don't give a flying rat's ass anymore. You're clearly not out to discuss the matter, that's for sure. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 I like you Roleplayer.. I really do.. Sorry but I'm already engaged. But I do get the impression especially from this thread that you are more than just a little *proud.* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have no reason to be or feel proud, really; at least not in regards to anything in this thread. I would have, if I could make people tell me why they feel the need to click with one specific part of a post but conveniently forget what came before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) I am glad that you can find humor in my post, Roleplayer. Really mature. For someone who writes so eloquently, you sure resort to childish bickering when people start disagreeing with you. EDIT: As for "RPG" character progression seeming that they only improve combat-related skills... That is just total nonsense, to tell you the truth. Unless you are specifically speaking about action RPGs, in which case that point would hold a certain kernel of truth. But for most other PC RPGs, that statement is just a red herring. Edited February 12, 2006 by Lancer Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 What I don't understand is why you even start a thread when all you do is talk down on the people who participate See, this is why I mentioned your own condescending attitude. It works terribly with your inability to post something without exagerating it. If you bother to read the contents of my posts, it's pretty clear that its wrong to state that all I'm doing is talking down on people who participate. Not only because that's not all I'm doing, but because I'm not acting that way towards all the people that participate. and happen to blow big holes in your arguments. Examples. Are you really that immature that you can't take criticism..? Your writing suggests otherwise, but your replies are.. odd, to say the least. Just because I'm not accepting this particular criticism doesn't mean I can't or won't accept criticism ever. Take the above quote for example. You're ruining what could have been an interesting thread with crap like this (and the crap in the last 10+ posts) because you can't stand being wrong? No, I'm "ruining it with crap like this" because of the crap others post. Look at the very quote you mention - it is addressed at your previous post, which has you coming out of the woodwork telling me I'm being condescendent. *That* is the "crap" that's actually ruining the thread. I'm sure I could just accept any and all things people may call me, but that's not how I'm wired. Because you really had no intention of discussing the matter and instead just troll and bait in your own thread? I don't get it, but after reading through all this junk I don't give a flying rat's ass anymore. Yet, you gave enough of a flying rat's ass to come here and tell me I'm wrong by association of what others said instead of presenting your own reasoning for it, to call me condescending, and to make assumption after assumption regarding my posts and the intentions behind them - only to then claim to not care anymore and hint at a departure. If you look closely, you might see the irony of accusing me of trolling and baiting. But I doubt it. You're clearly not out to discuss the matter, that's for sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for your insight. I'm sure the lack of evidence to make this claim will make it a success among your peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 :cool: (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 For someone who writes so eloquently, you sure resort to childish bickering when people start disagreeing with you. Is this the part where I should point out who started sounding immature because they disagreed with me by making posts which consisted of nothing more than a sleeping smily, or the assumption that I think too highly of myself simply because I don't agree with you? Ooops. EDIT: As for "RPG" character progression seeming that they only improve combat-related skills... That is just total nonsense, to tell you the truth. I said it seems that pressing forward to get 'stronger' or 'better' only has an application in combat-related skills. This doesn't mean that only combat-related skills increase or are useful; rather, that only combat-related skills seem to be only ones which are ultimately more important. Unless you are specifically speaking about action RPGs, in which case that point would hold a certain kernel of truth. But for most other RPGs, that statement is just a red herring. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So do tell, what is the actual issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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