You guys are just awful the way you bash everything Bethesda. 

 

Its ridiculous, but it cracks me up.

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I don't hate Bethseda. I like Morrowind, I don't like the idea of them touching the sacred Fallout games.

Also an opposing opinion isn't stupid, but how it is presented can be.

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To nitpick a "Fixed" quote is just being bitter. And reflective of not having anything else to really say.

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I dunno, Hades tends to get "Fixed" more than most people, so I can understand why he might be getting tired of it.

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I think his attitude stems from him being "fixed"

And if they make a better fallout?

We don't need to bash Bethesda. The dev quotes speak for themselves.

We don't need to bash Bethesda. The dev quotes speak for themselves.

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Bethesda: It's not what we do well.

 

 

That never gets old

And if they make a better fallout?

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Not likely, not possible.

And if they make a better fallout?

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Not likely, not possible.

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but... if they did?

And if they make a better fallout?

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Not likely, not possible.

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but... if they did?

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No. I see you're trying to get me to rant on about Fallout 3 and somemone else making it again. So sorry I'm done discussing this.

No, I'm trying to see what you'd do "if" they did make a worthy fallout game.

 

Come on gabby, it's just a hypothetical question.. it won't kill you to answer it

 

I hope. :ph34r:

Edited February 4, 200620 yr by Darque

Bloody hell they will not make a worthy fallout game in my eyes nor will i play it. it is not worthy because bethsda is doing it their way with out any help or influence from the orignal teams involved in the first two

fine fine fine sheesh

And if they make a better fallout?

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Not likely, not possible.

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It was also not possible for George Lucas to make a bad prequel movie. And yet... he made three!

At least I am more open minded that Gabs on Bethesda making Fallout 3.

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ORLY? Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?

I do not condemn Fallout 3 just because Bethesda is making it.  I condemn it based on the interviews which have been conducted.  I also have particular views on how it is made and if Bethesda makes the game close to these views then I would have no problem with the game.  You, on the other hand, have condemned Fallout 3 by the principle that no oneon the roiginal staff of Falout 1 and Fallout 2 is part of the development team.

 

The difference is in the details.

 

I wonder when they are going to reopen the Fallout forums.  When they do I will be there to discuss my views on Fallout 3.

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You were saying?

 

 

 

The thingis I trust Obsidian to make a good game. I don't trust Bethesda. I have only played one game of their in house and one outside development game. Morowind was alrgiht. Pirates of the Caribbean stunk to high heaven. I also have heard horror stories about how buggy their previous games were.

 

It comes down to a matter of trust. I don't trust Bethesda to make a proper Fallout game and I don't particularly like their style of CRPG in a Fallout game. Is bethesda capable of making a good CRPG? Yes. Are they capable of making a good Fallout game? All indications point to no.

Edited February 4, 200620 yr by Gabrielle

Gabby comes out swinging and gets a crit :D

I wonder when they are going to reopen the Fallout forums.  When they do I will be there to discuss my views on Fallout 3.

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I just want to be there the day the FO forums open. Is it even possible to ban 5,000 posters in a single day, do you think? lol.

Gabby comes out swinging and gets a crit :D

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It took me long enough to find it. I have a good memory.

I tried going back into the first thread. He was mostly just laughing hysterically.

 

 

Volourn seemed quite upset, as did roshan.

I'm quite confident FO3 isn't going to suck. In fact, it's probably going to get great reviews and sell 1,000,000+ copies. Bethesda has enough clout and talent to make that happen. Whether it's a 'true successor' or not remains to be seen.

 

Either way, I'm not really bothered. I don't care enough about the Fallout franchise to be worked up about Bethesda possibly ruining the beloved series. Bethesda makes good games - just not games I like or buy. Fable and Dungeon Siege were good games with good reviews, but that doesn't make them relevant. Just because a game is a RPG doesn't mean it's my type of RPG.

Oh, yes Lonewolf add to the stupidity. 

 

More and more I think that gamers around here are getting more idiotic.

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I play nearly anything whats on PC...even viruses somethimes...Diablo is good for some 'hackin-time'...but PLEASE don't say Oblivion will be like that!!!

I still have this idea of one NPC shoving another, it develops into a brawl, the guards get involved, pretty much the whole town joins in, they all kill each other, and the PC walks into town for the first time to find the bodies lying around and no explanation of what happened.

 

AI can get so funky sometimes. It is like that one time in Deus Ex suddenly a bunch of cops started shooting me and everybody in the Lucky Money. That was quite weird...

Or how these same cops would turn hostile if I shot a MJ-12 commando infront of their eyes . And for some reason (yeah! our bad pathfinding again) one always managed to get stuck infront of them without them shooting or taking notice... but ofcourse take notice when I kill and shoot

 

My guess is that the QA people are finding the free will of the NPCs is throwing up odd situations, not as severe as above, but game-threatening or bug-like, and that as they continue making modifications to the AI the number of these oddities is not decreasing.  I wouldn't be surprised to find the finished product with much less NPC freedom than was initially suggested.

 

WARNING: Critical Error detected

No NPC_dog_flameable found for NPC_Generic_City1_3

PROGRAM WILL ABORT

 

Or

 

"The prophecy is broken"

Tester: WTF?

AI-developer; A yes, well see there, this innocent woman killed a main quest related npc for killing that Demon in her Line of Sight... you are screwed man...

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Heh, it's bad design for the game to just abort because a character is missing

I wonder when they are going to reopen the Fallout forums.  When they do I will be there to discuss my views on Fallout 3.

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The last time you went there and tried to 'discuss' your views on Fallout 3 all you did was repeat the same "must have X features list or all else it's not Fallout" in nearly every thread.

Also, mkreku, are you sure that that isn't just bad pathfinding? (MW enemies do it too, and they are not so clever)

Well, I've seen Gothic's enemies try to hunt me, come to a cliff, stop to think for a few seconds and then one of them tries to jump down but dies in the fall. The others tried to go around the obstacle after that..

 

But yeah, it is mostly just really crappy pathfinding )

I have very strong views about what makes a game Fallout and it requires it to be more than just a name on a box.

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You don't discuss those views, you just repeat them on and on. It's not a discussion if all you're doing is repeating the same statements.