Diogo Ribeiro Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 That'd I'd pay to play. Likewise, I'd pay to play a FASA-based world which combined Shadowrun and Earthdawn, and any other related worlds.
Gabrielle Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 I don't like average people, I want to be a death dealing vampire.
Volourn Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 "Vampire: Redemption met with failure for being what Neverwinter Nights was but without the extensive technical support and the supportive fanbase." The reason it didn't have a supportive fnabase (outside of the one or two typical rara types that even the worst games have) is that there wa snothing redeemable about the game at all. Whether an indidivudal dislikes NWN or not; it obvious had enough people liking it to keep it going strong which, of course, making it worth BIO's time to continue support it. V:R was just plain old fahsion dreadful, and most people had that assessment of it. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Guest MacLeodCorp Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) Since Troika went under, how about Obsidian does Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 for the pc? That game was awesome and I definitely think a lot of the designers at Obsidian would agree that that game was great. I would personally like to see Chris Avellone take a crack at it, since he likes the darker stuff anyway. Also if anyone knows the status of a sequel please let me know. But Obsidian, I would be pleased if you somehow found yourselves doing that project in the near future. IN fact I would be rather excited. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hehehehe... Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines Hehehe... It is a sequal.... Maybe they should do another sequal to 'Vampire the Masquerade'.. Hehehe.... Edited: Spelling Edited January 4, 2006 by MacLeodCorp
Diogo Ribeiro Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 The fanbase was there. There were definetely several modding groups and projects at the time, but they eventually withered. Online play was also strong for a brief period, then also waned. Much like Neverwinter Nights the main portion of the game was passable but players tried to extend its longevity by using the toolset and playing online. The lack of a meaningful fanbase was not exclusively due to the main game's low points. Sure, generic and uninspired gameplay helped, but so did the game's attempt to be a varied package, and it having better competition (not necessarily genrewise).
Judge Hades Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 one of the problems with Redemption is the fact that it started in the "Dark Ages" timeframe which Vampire: Dark Ages sold crap and no one liked it.
Gabrielle Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 Requiem would be a good setting. I never got into the White Wolf games until they released their Bloodlines CRPG. I'm a recent fangirl.
Volourn Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) It's biggest problem it was just old fahsion crap. The handful of people that RP is talkiong about just wasn't enough to sutain it for some obvious reason much like the handful of hard workers still trouncing along on TOEE. But, at least with TOEE i can see why people would like it. I can't say the same for Redemption... Edited January 4, 2006 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Judge Hades Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 It also helps that DnD has a much larger fanbase than WoD.
Gabrielle Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 DnD had many years to gain their fan bays compared to WoD which is some what new.
Volourn Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 That shouldn't matter much. Afterall, I'm sure they budgeted the game accordingly. Or they didn't, and that's why it bombed.. Afterall, Bio and Atari (anmd Interplay) liekly had no problem putting cahs into it 'cause they likely knew they'd get the sales required to pay for it as long as the game was good. I would hope the creators of VTM:R did the same. But, apparantly they didn't and hence it's utter embarassment. Heck, if it wasn't for NWN and its Dm client or VTM:BL no one would likely remember that horrible game at all. That's how awful it truly was. Its claim to infamy is its crappiness, it was the first game with a DM cLient, and the first v:tm GAME (iirc). " Anyways, back on topic, I doubt that Obsidian will make a sequel to BL. Who knows if they will make a Vampire game though. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Atreides Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I don't know about a sequel, but a game set in Requiem (since Masquerade was discontinued) would be really awesome. Spreading beauty with my katana.
Darque Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 VTM is dead and VTR sucks... no more vamp games, thanks
Atreides Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 How did Bloodlines, a Mature rated game sell anyway? Btw, if it's a story about vampires it could be interesting if the game started in the Renaissance (or any other period), you went into hibernation and you awake in the modern day. Cue transition issues etc (using archaic language to speak etc). Spreading beauty with my katana.
Darque Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I'd rather they abandon the modern era entirely. Victorian or Dark Age Vampire would be better
Surreptishus Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I think they should make a game based on Count Von Count.
CoM_Solaufein Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 VTM is dead and VTR sucks... no more vamp games, thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is wrong on so many levels. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
Weiser_Cain Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I Like the Idea of multiple eras like in the first (?) game though that may only be because I miss the Cappadocian. It'd be nice if you could customize your appearance in the next one and buy individual pieces of clothes and jewelry to impress all the young ghouls... I miss Heather... Yaw devs, Yaw!!! (
CoM_Solaufein Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I'd rather they abandon the modern era entirely. Victorian or Dark Age Vampire would be better <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those two would be good. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
Weiser_Cain Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Bah, I hate the Victorian era (I also don Yaw devs, Yaw!!! (
Jorian Drake Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) Maybe someone out there is already developing the new V.... " Edited January 6, 2006 by jorian
Gabrielle Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 VTM is dead and VTR sucks... no more vamp games, thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What've you been smoking? More vamp games please.
Darque Posted January 6, 2006 Posted January 6, 2006 VTM is dead and VTR sucks... no more vamp games, thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What've you been smoking? More vamp games please. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd be cool with an "original" vampire oriented game, but no more WOD
mkreku Posted January 6, 2006 Posted January 6, 2006 I actually hated the entire vampire thing and the only redeeming factor about Bloodlines' setting is that it was modern times. That alone made it good. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Jorian Drake Posted January 6, 2006 Posted January 6, 2006 (edited) I could be wrong, but I think they r already thinking of making part 2 (if not ALREADY doing it) If they do it ,then I think they hide it 'couse the bad responses for bloodlines, and all the bugs in it. I think they wanna go sure that never happens again. " Edited January 6, 2006 by jorian
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