Atreides Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Lets say NASA (or whoever) finds something really (really really) valuable with one of its probes (say the pathfinders on Mars etc), should they claim it as property as their country? I've considered that countries with either no financial/technological hope of sending their own probes or countries that couldn't be bothered to do so initially would raise a good ruckus, claiming that it should be "shared by mankind". However, it's not like they did anything to help. Or perhaps they could run a setup like medical patents - the discoverer gets exclusive rights for a few years (decades, centuries?) and then they lose the patent. Or maybe the discoverer gets a majority percentage and the rest of the world gets a smaller cut. Spreading beauty with my katana.
Moose Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Law of the Jungle. Belongs to whoever can take it. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts
Moose Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) Oh I misread the question... who "should" it belong to. Erm, whoever finds it first I guess. If they want to share that's up to them. Edited December 30, 2005 by Moose There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 I think we should leave all our concepts of economics and property right here on earth. Whatever we may find out there, it belongs to everyone (and no one). Its a bit like international water. If we let corporations, people or nations claim property in space we will be opening a huge can of worms once we're technologicly advanced enough to go out there and try to claim that "property". DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Walsingham Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 I recall this being mooted earlier. I argued then and now that unless you allow the guy who finds/colonises stuff to keep it then there is precious little incentive for doing it at all. And since space exploration is our only strategic fallback when Mother Earth inevitably has a grand catastrophe here, we NEED space exploration. So I say let people get all greedy. Greed is a great motivator. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) Greed may be an effective form of motiation but it also has he sideffect to draw out all the bad sides in us. We wouldnt want Planetoid United Fruit Co. Edited December 30, 2005 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Judge Hades Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Greed is how the world work and what motivates the human race. Your idea there is nice, but has no place in how the real world operates.
Darque Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Greed is how the world work and what motivates the human race. Your idea there is nice, but has no place in how the real world operates. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> an outmoded and archaic style of thought. natural selection will weed you out eventually
Darque Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Its basic human instinct. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only the human animal.
Judge Hades Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 And that is what a human being is, an mammal, a primate, an animal.
kirottu Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 And that is what a human being is, an mammal, a primate, an animal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But with our intle... intellin.. intellice... smartness were capable to rise over all other animals! This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Gabrielle Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Its basic human instinct. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only the human animal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Eterminate with extreme prejudice. All of them. Space the final frontier is not for the warmongering human animal.
Darque Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 And that is what a human being is, an mammal, a primate, an animal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only if said "human" has no control of itself. If all you're looking at is the meat, then you'll always be wrong. Animals are controlled by their instincts. Humans control their instincts. So, Hades, are you a human, or just an animal?
Gabrielle Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Where's Hades at? He needs to straighten you out.
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