V:TM - Bloodlines

[SteveThaiBinh]

Can't you just murder people for food to get your humanity to drop?

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Yes.

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No!

 

Well, actually, yes, but then I feel so guilty that I reload the game and let the guy live. I'm a failure as a role-player.

[Slowtrain]

I've never been able to get my humanity down at all.  I just feel guilty - it's even worse than playing Kotor 2 as a darksider.

 

So my question was, are there any good dialogue options or other things that open up when your humanity is low?  If there's considerable new content, I might be able to force myself.

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If you don't have a high persuasion or access to Dominate or Dementation you will tend to lose a lot of humanity points resolving situations.

 

For example when Samantha was going to call her friends in Hollywood my Brujah Logan had no choice but to kill her. So he got a Masquerade Redemption but lost humanity in the process.

 

 

edit: spelling

Edited November 25, 2005 by CrashGirl

[Gabrielle]

Well yeah you can let them live by stopping short of their death. She asked if your humanity dropped if you drained them until they died.

 

I noly kill civilians when I grow bored and go on a killing spree. When that is out of my system I'll just reload the previous save game.

[Janmanden]

For example when Samantha was going to call her friends in Hollywood my Brujah Logan had no choice but to kill her. 

 

You don't need to kill, just suck her brain out and leave her standing there.

[Slowtrain]

I don't randomly kill civilians either, but there was the one time when one was standing at the entrance to Confession and wouldn't move no matter how long I waited. Since I needed to get in there, I took the pragmatic route.

 

ANyway, I like to stay in character with my Vampires. My Brujah does most of his thinking with his fists, so that's how he resolves things. Really, he's not too bright, but he's a sweetie.

[Calax]

Thats why I love gangrel you go bezerk and nothing can stop you

[Darque]

Can you get enough XP though?

 

I've heard that you don't get XP for killing things... which is sad.

[Musopticon?]

There's no level progression, you can invest XP right away after you gain it. Anyway, there's no random encounters or any of that; all killing is tied to the quests and dungeons and you get xp only by solving problems, doing quests and using skills so there's no xp-farming.

 

I kind of like it.

 

Enough? Well, I thought there was more than enough to make a character capable of doing a variety of different trades. There's no "pure" fighter or thief or mage or diplomat, although the clans do serve those roles to some extent. In essence, you can't make a jack of all trades, but theres enough xp to specialize(melee, fists, guns, smooching, blood magic, sneakoman) and be at least decent in diplomatic skills and some technical stuff.

Edited November 28, 2005 by Musopticon?

[Darque]

But is the XP gain balanced?

 

Child o' Flame was saying he couldn't get any because he took a combat character.

[Musopticon?]

Ehmm...I had no problems taking some bow-wow-skills on the side, while specializing in melee.

[Darque]

Bow wow?

[Musopticon?]

Hub-bub, speech, wigwag, talking, etc.

Edited November 28, 2005 by Musopticon?

[Darque]

Ah

 

You're using that English on me again

[Musopticon?]

to yourself.

[kirottu]

Ah

 

You're using that English on me again

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I think it was old(before Clint Eastwood) western reference.

[Musopticon?]

Yeah, tell apart the other references and earn free TOMBS points. :D

[Slowtrain]

But is the XP gain balanced?

 

Child o' Flame was saying he couldn't get any because he took a combat character.

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Because of the rather combat-intensive nature of the game, especially the last half, the game does favor the better combat clans in general.

 

Brujah are effective because you can just build unarmed and persuasion and toss the rest of your points into your disciplines, celerity first followed by potence and presence. Then you can put leftover points into melee or ranged or stealth or whatever you want.

 

The other clans require a bit more hand-holding to develop.

 

On a general note: persuasion is way unbalanced through the first half of the game. Unless you're really into RPing your Vamp you would never not develop persuasion. However, not developing persuasion, such as I'm doing with my Brujah, makes your charcter feel much more unique.

[Lord Tingeling]

But is the XP gain balanced?

 

Child o' Flame was saying he couldn't get any because he took a combat character.

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Because of the rather combat-intensive nature of the game, especially the last half, the game does favor the better combat clans in general.

 

Brujah are effective because you can just build unarmed and persuasion and toss the rest of your points into your disciplines, celerity first followed by potence and presence. Then you can put leftover points into melee or ranged or stealth or whatever you want.

 

The other clans require a bit more hand-holding to develop.

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To be totally honest, the only real, tangible difference between the clans is the various disciplines they get. Pumping a Toreador's combat feats doesn't really involve anything other than spending a few more exp points. Also, Toreador and Brujah are roughly equal in their combat viability through disciplines, even though Brujah tend to do more damage in melee if they opt for potence. Though I guess Toreador get Auspex for buffing perception past 10 for MEGA HEADSHOT CRITS giving that extra point of damage for 60 or so exp.

 

On a general note: persuasion is way unbalanced through the first half of the game.  Unless you're really into RPing your Vamp you would never not develop persuasion.  However, not developing persuasion, such as I'm doing with my Brujah, makes your charcter feel much more unique.

 

On a sidenote, Malkavians and Ventrue make excellent talkers even without any points put into charisma.

 

Maggots! You are eating maggots!

Edited November 28, 2005 by Lord Tingeling

[CoM_Solaufein]

I usually stick with Toreador and Tremere clans. You can beef up the Toreadors to be a decent combat clan. Tremeres you can do the same but try and get 5 points in Thaumaturgy. Why get your hands dirty when you can use those devastating blood spells.