Aniki Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 This is just a rumor but I heard that one of the reasons that Bioware was not assigned to the production of the second installment of Knights of The Old Republic was do to a conflict of interest. One of them being a choice to pursue a homosexual romance like we see in the latest production from Bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 This is just a rumor but I heard that one of the reasons that Bioware was not assigned to the production of the second installment of Knights of The Old Republic was do to a conflict of interest. One of them being a choice to pursue a homosexual romance like we see in the latest production from Bioware Kalfear Disco and Dragons Avatar Enlarged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I don't really know either way, but it would surprise me if it was even an issue. I mean Lucasarts published Kevin J. Anderson's books and they're totally gay. People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-47 MK II Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 This is just a rumor but I heard that one of the reasons that Bioware was not assigned to the production of the second installment of Knights of The Old Republic was do to a conflict of interest. One of them being a choice to pursue a homosexual romance like we see in the latest production from Bioware MY PHOTORECEPTORS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WITHTEETH Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 It would simplify the romance options for both sexes... Always outnumbered, never out gunned! Unreal Tournament 2004 Handle:Enlight_2.0 Myspace Website! My rig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 This is just a rumor but I heard that one of the reasons that Bioware was not assigned to the production of the second installment of Knights of The Old Republic was do to a conflict of interest. One of them being a choice to pursue a homosexual romance like we see in the latest production from Bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 LOL, and here I thought it was the chopping off heads and all the blood that gave JE the M rating! LOL The Gay aspect didnt even occur to me. Well homosexual relationship is what gave JE a M rating... Kalfear Disco and Dragons Avatar Enlarged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edu11 Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 i don't think Aniki's assumption is correct. Bioware could have put homosexual relationships in K1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewekeds Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I thought Lesiban was homosexuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I thought Lesiban was homosexuality <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only by women and christians, and when the girls are ugly People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionavar Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I'm sure this is not required, but let's post in this thread with respect and maturity. The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yst Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Jade Empire allows a gay romance option? (w00t) I hadn't been bothering to play it, even though a friend left his XBox and the game at my place since release. Haven't really had time. But I think this just provided me the extra impetus I needed. Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagthru Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 LOL, and here I thought it was the chopping off heads and all the blood that gave JE the M rating! LOL The Gay aspect didnt even occur to me. Well homosexual relationship is what gave JE a M rating... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a society we live in that views love between two members of the same sex more abhorrent than the taking of a life. Yippie! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybelly Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I can't see homosexuality in a Star Wars context like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewekeds Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Palpatine just dirty old man can you see how he eye Anakin. Then when vader strats to get old his after the young Luke. I find it odd in the movies we only see male master and student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yst Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I can't see homosexuality in a Star Wars context like that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think this sentiment would be a common one, and I think it likely stems from the fact that homosexuality is usually treated as inherently sexualised and immediately, directly associated with the raw act of copulation by much of western culture. Star Wars, antithetically, is a very intentionally desexualised universe. Homosexuality. It's even got it in the name. That's why I tend to use the term 'gay' by preference. A gay romance could just be a couple guys feeling romantic affection for one another. But call it homosexual and it's already got sex in it. It doesn't need to. There's no reason two male characters can't exchange words of affection, or maybe a kiss and make a romance of it. I hope that this sort of treatment becomes more acceptable. I'm quite alright with the fact that Star Wars is a sexually innocent universe, at least traditionally. But I'd like to see sexually innocent gay romanace options within it if it remains so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguars4ever Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 One of them being a choice to pursue a homosexual romance like we see in the latest production from Bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illbleed Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I don't think Bioware did not developed K2 because LA allowed no gay romance ... Bioware had to throw away a lot of great Story Elements in past games because of the license owners (Star Wars, AD&D) so they are able to stand restrictions. It's just a rumour imo .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yst Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Indeed, the rumour itself seems highly improbable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguars4ever Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Indeed, the rumour itself seems highly improbable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Especially if they're rumors on the internets. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Any developer, and especially one as young as Obsidian, has to be wary of attracting negative publicity because of this issue. No-one wants to be singled out by extremist Christians or others for the latest anti-liberal crusade. Sadly, that leads to gays being absent from games, reinforcing prejudice and exclusion in the real world. I'm amazed and impressed that Bioware have taken such a strong stance on this, relative to other developers. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybelly Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I think this sentiment would be a common one, and I think it likely stems from the fact that homosexuality is usually treated as inherently sexualised and immediately, directly associated with the raw act of copulation by much of western culture. Star Wars, antithetically, is a very intentionally desexualised universe. Homosexuality. It's even got it in the name. That's why I tend to use the term 'gay' by preference. A gay romance could just be a couple guys feeling romantic affection for one another. But call it homosexual and it's already got sex in it. It doesn't need to. There's no reason two male characters can't exchange words of affection, or maybe a kiss and make a romance of it. I hope that this sort of treatment becomes more acceptable. I'm quite alright with the fact that Star Wars is a sexually innocent universe, at least traditionally. But I'd like to see sexually innocent gay romanace options within it if it remains so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it might be only me, but the word "gay" gives all sorts of connotations. I think homosexuality is a neutral word, and better suited than words of a more slangish character. But you have a point, of course. Now, this is not to be regarded as an anti-homosexual post in any way, I'm all for love and trust and happy couples, no matter what their gender should happen to be. It is just difficult for me to envision this sort of thing happening within the framework of the Star Wars setting. I mean, you are very much correct that Star Wars is a very innocent universe, the love it depicts is "ideal" and fairy tale-ish, and a kiss is all you're going to see, no "conceptions". Regardless or maybe because of this, I do not feel homosexuality has anything to contribute with in the setting. It doesn't fit. There is a prince gets princess or rascal gets princess quality to Star Wars romances. I feel the theme of family and children also is very prominent in the Star Wars universe, and as we know, this is a tricky point for homosexuals. So there... My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I don't know if I buy that. It would be silly to have the Juhani romance option in KOTOR I, but then not allow a gay male romance option in KOTOR II. Like a previous poster said, it would have been an option, you wouldn't have to pursue it if you didn't want to. Thereby, it would have allowed both the conservatives and the straight men to play through without even noticing it was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11XHooah Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I think that a gay romance option is completely disgusting. I don't mean any offense, I don't hate gay people or anything, but putting a gay romance option into a game, especially a Star Wars game, is just a no-go in my book. And can you imagine the kind of publicity it would get? You would have a lot of parents saying that the game is encouraging homsexual activity, and all that crap. If you want a gay romance, use KSE to modify your gender in the game accordingly. Just my .02. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. --John Stewart Mill-- "Victory was for those willing to fight and die. Intellectuals could theorize until they sucked their thumbs right off their hands, but in the real world, power still flowed from the barrel of a gun.....you could send in your bleeding-heart do-gooders, you could hold hands and pray and sing hootenanny songs and invoke the great gods CNN and BBC, but the only way to finally open the roads to the big-eyed babies was to show up with more guns." --Black Hawk Down-- MySpace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=44500195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 You don't hate gay people, but you think a gay romance option "is completely disgusting"? Seems like doubletalk to me. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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