Jellybelly

Man, I have to say... Arguing with that blockhead Volourn seems to be a bloody chore. And I only stop by these forums once or twice a month.

Using American "accomplishments" in the Olympics version of "soccer" as an argument, is really quite laughable. :D

Ash.

I find it surprising, or not really surprising, that none of those who advocate America as the founders of modern democracy, try to answer Metadigital's post... "

On a personal level, fundamentalism might not be so bad. As you say, it may be a tremendous source of personal strength. However, I've found it renders you nearly incapable of interacting with people who have different perspectives and opinions. Fundamentalism renders you incapable of looking at the sources, and doing creative thinking. Again, I must stress the point of recognising the difference between the center and the periphery in hermeneutics.

Withteeth: I think you are out of line in answering to Eldar's post. He doesn't fit the image of an enraged, spluttering fundamentalist, but answers to your post in a lucid, educated way. Your heading of the topic was unacademical, and might have seemed very provocative, depending on one's perspective, of course. It might be informative, and probably useful for the ongoing discussion if you actually answered the questions he posed. Dialogue is impossible when debaters brush each other off in the way you did in this discussion. I mean, you did intend for the topic to be discussed, right? Then why don't you discuss? Eldar brought several objects to the discussion, and pointed out flaws (and lack of academic dignity/etiquette) in your argument. As far as I can see, you mean to "prove" that the Bible can't "be true", because of its obvious references and inspirations. Why don't you respond to Eldar's answers related to this? Also, when discussing hermeneutics (and especially in studies related to the Bible), I feel it is important to distinguish between the center and the periphery. I mean, I certainly wouldn't put as much stock in what was supposedly said by Paulus as in what was said by Christ.

Here in Norway, the film has received very good reviews in the papers, actually. Particularly for a Star Wars movie, I haven't seen anything below a 4/6 rating, and quite a lot of 5s. I am seeing the movie tonight, and I'm really looking forward to it, too.

of course I have .. which is why I can say without a doubt I'm not gay .. and why I don't feel the need to throttle one if they ever make a pass on me! funny thing actually, one of my best friends is a bisexual, we meet when he tried to score me in a disco .. I choose/chose to take it as a compliment .. ^_^ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What you're saying is that you have to kiss a person of the same sex as yourself to know whether you are homo or bisexual? Doesn't sound very "secure"...

Why? It's an important discussion, even though most of the pro-guys automatically assume that those opposed to their views are homophobes...

The Thrawn trilogy is the worst piece of rubbish I have ever read. And the new films have proved that he never existed. Yeehaw!

That's extremely narrow-minded. Why the hell should storytellers have that sort of rules imposed upon them?

That's not the point. It's the Star Wars setting. R2 and 3PO notwithstanding. In games like JE, I see no problem with it.

I'd like to raise a small flag of warning for Baldur's Gate! That game is so dreadful. Go with the Fallouts and PST. Much more interesting.

It's not going to change the fact that the Exile is going to look for Revan, is it? I mean, if it does, the ENTIRE game is pointless.

Well, it might be only me, but the word "gay" gives all sorts of connotations. I think homosexuality is a neutral word, and better suited than words of a more slangish character. But you have a point, of course. Now, this is not to be regarded as an anti-homosexual post in any way, I'm all for love and trust and happy couples, no matter what their gender should happen to be. It is just difficult for me to envision this sort of thing happening within the framework of the Star Wars setting. I mean, you are very much correct that Star Wars is a very innocent universe, the love it depicts is "ideal" and fairy tale-ish, and a kiss is all you're going to see, no "conceptions". Regardless or maybe because of this, I do not feel homosexuality has anything to contribute with in the setting. It doesn't fit. There is a prince gets princess or rascal gets princess quality to Star Wars romances. I feel the theme of family and children also is very prominent in the Star Wars universe, and as we know, this is a tricky point for homosexuals. So there... My opinion.