Should KOTOR 3 even be a sequel to KOTOR 2?

[NeverwinterKnight]

The only problem with expansions at least as far as my experience with them is that they usually aren't even as close as good as the original was. Obviously they're a lot smaller and basically add only a thing or two.

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a lot of people feel that hotu is a much better game than nwn's oc. thats what i think of when i think of expansion packs.

[KotOR_rules2004]

I think KOTOR 3 (if there will be one, they rumors right now i believe) should be a meeting of Revan and the Exile, and they go on some massive wipe-out mission, destroying all Sith (or vice-vera for you who mainly play DS).

[Judge Hades]

Revan or the Exile wouldn't be good player characters because by the end of their respective games they are already godlike in power. They left no room for advancement.

[NeverwinterKnight]

Revan or the Exile wouldn't be good player characters because by the end of their respective games they are already godlike in power.  They left no room for advancement.

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if its an expansion pack like hotu it would work.

[Judge Hades]

There is one problem with that. There is no such thing as epic levels in Star Wars d20.

[NeverwinterKnight]

theyve already done away with that by adding the prestige classes in kotor2 did they not? so i dont see how doing something similar to hotu, where the pc can go from around 20 to 27 levels to gaining maybe another 3 or so levels throughout, would unbalance the game any more, or alter the rules any more than they already have.

[Judge Hades]

True. The game is already messed up, game mechanic wise, so why bother to fix it.

[DSLuke]

C'mon just bring the new story.

 

The balancing issues can be easily fixed.

 

Just make them Jedi veterans or something.

[Judge Hades]

Jedi Veterens? Nice broad term. Care for giving specifics? Also if the balancing issues were so easily fixed then why are the games so easy to beat?

[Muad'Dib]

Hades believe me that I know what you mean, with the supposed level cap at 50 Exile can be virtually an ultra-God should he/she be featured as the protagonist of KotOR 3, similar case with Revan.

 

But considering that issue aside, in story term purposes, the Exile needs to be the protagonist of KotOR 3 thanks to the crap cliffhanger ending of KotOR 2, in my opinion. That story need a final resolution and those characters need closure. KotOR 2's ending was delivered in way where in the least the Exile has to be the returning protagonist in the third installment, though I want to se Revan featured again just as much as the Exile in the third one.

 

As lame as something like Baldur's Gate 2's resolution was to make the original PC less powerful than where he/she ended up in the first game, I'd rather have some similar lame explanation why Exile/Revam are not as powerful as they were when they ended in the first two game and complete the actual story the way it deserves than to just begin with yet another Padawan wannabe picking up where the last two left off, to me that's even more pathetic than the lame loss of levels for one or both of the original protagonists.

 

In any case, time will only tell what happens regarding an expansion or KotOR 3. I can live with "Sorry Exile you lost your powers and are at level 1 or 5 again work your way back" rather than "You remember that guy that went looking for Revan, well he's missing now too so why don't you go looking for both third misc protagonist".

[Judge Hades]

We had the Amnesiac in the first one. A war veteren in the second. Maybe what they need is a complete n00b to find out what is going on and mybe he or she won't go missing.

[Plooby]

I agree with the Knight... a quick expansion... no new fancy stuff... just more of the same, but with an ending that, well, ENDS. And expansions don't always suck... HotU was better than the orginal NWN. :D

 

I would really be upset if they do do KotOR III Exile and Revan and made them less than who they are. I'd rather start with someone new if that is going to be the case. But I am torn, becuase I really have a need to know what happens with Revan and Exile and I think an expansion is the best way to do that.

[Muad'Dib]

Well Plooby, I'm just playing NWN for the first time right now, so I guess I'll see how that goes and if the expansions are better as many claim. For the most part though, expansions aren't close to being as good as the originals, at least for me.

In any case, I still do want closure to the these particular characters and story whether by KotOR 3 or via expansion, as long as there's the ending the saga deserves I'll be happy.

 

Nah Hades the noob will go missing also, considering they'll probably have the noob reach level 100, then in KotOR 4 some other idiot will be dispatched to find the first three...and so on...and so on...

[NeverwinterKnight]

Nah Hades the noob will go missing also, considering they'll probably have the noob reach level 100, then in KotOR 4 some other idiot will be dispatched to find the first three...and so on...and so on...

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which is exactly why the need to close the revan/exile saga with an expansion. with each new game, if they keep implementing a new pc, the characters, not to mention the story (just how can 3 or more uber jedi be linked together, yet only appear after the previous one disappeared), will become ridiculous.

 

finish the revan/exile saga, then move on to a brand new, fresh story.

[Plooby]

Well Plooby, I'm just playing NWN for the first time right now, so I guess I'll see how that goes and if the expansions are better as many claim.

 

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Oh... fun, MD! They really are great. Let me know how you like them!

[DarthReliguim]

I think they should use a different engine,you know so it won't have so many glitches.Maybe they could ask you what Revan and the Exile looked like.That would be cool ! And they could make it an Action/RPG.

[jaguars4ever]

And expansions don't always suck... HotU was better than the orginal NWN.  :D

Single player wise, anything is better than the origianl NWN.

[deganawida]

Revan or the Exile wouldn't be good player characters because by the end of their respective games they are already godlike in power.  They left no room for advancement.

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This isn't a problem for the Exile.

 

 

Due to the Exile's nature as a cipher, his force ability was tied to the number of people that he had following him and how many he had killed. His being a cipher was tied to cutting himself off from the Force due to Malachor V, thus creating a wound in the Force. If that wound was healed at the end of TSL, then the Exile would, theoretically, be only as powerful as he was at the end of the Mandalorian Wars.

 

 

Hope that makes sense, and it avoides "new padawan" and "amnesia" tricks.

[GirlGamersUnite]

i always thought expansion packs were a good thing. i mean where would the sims be without the hundreds of expansion packs. making magic, vacation, super stars, unleashed, house party, living large... you could go on for a while

[Lloydya - Reborn in KoTOR II !!!]

KoTOR I = Brilliant start to a trilogy with an ending like Episode IV (assuming you were LS).

 

KoTOR II = A more mysterious ending, the middle point of the trilogy but is it not like Episode V? With the Rebels at the edge of the galaxy, Luke getting his new hand and Leia watching Lando and Chewie going after Han?

 

KoTOR III = Let's hope it raps up nicely with a brilliant ending and hope it is even better than Episode VI. The Sith, the "True Sith", every evil Sith destroyed. Nice little ending.

 

KoTOR IV = Now, this could be either hundreds of years after KoTOR III, everything will be new. This would be nice and a good storyline. Perhaps we could fight in the war that Darth Bane fought in to destroy most of the Sith and change their ways so there are only ever two Sith? That would be a good storyline era. Or, KoTOR IV could be set in a decade or so before KoTOR I and be fighting in the Mandalorian Wars, like Lucas made Episode VI go to Episode I. Who knows?

 

KoTOR V and KoTOR VI = The storyline depends on whether it is in the Darth Bane era, another Sith time era or the before KoTOR I era. Either it is a nice secure ending or if it is set before KoTOR I, a nice cliff-hanger for KoTOR I.

 

Just a thought.

[DSLuke]

KoTOR I = Brilliant start to a trilogy with an ending like Episode IV (assuming you were LS).

 

KoTOR II = A more mysterious ending, the middle point of the trilogy but is it not like Episode V? With the Rebels at the edge of the galaxy, Luke getting his new hand and Leia watching Lando and Chewie going after Han?

 

KoTOR III = Let's hope it raps up nicely with a brilliant ending and hope it is even better than Episode VI. The Sith, the "True Sith", every evil Sith destroyed. Nice little ending.

 

KoTOR IV = Now, this could be either hundreds of years after KoTOR III, everything will be new. This would be nice and a good storyline. Perhaps we could fight in the war that Darth Bane fought in to destroy most of the Sith and change their ways so there are only ever two Sith? That would be a good storyline era. Or, KoTOR IV could be set in a decade or so before KoTOR I and be fighting in the Mandalorian Wars, like Lucas made Episode VI go to Episode I. Who knows?

 

KoTOR V and KoTOR VI = The storyline depends on whether it is in the Darth Bane era, another Sith time era or the before KoTOR I era. Either it is a nice secure ending or if it is set before KoTOR I, a nice cliff-hanger for KoTOR I.

 

Just a thought.

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Whatever, just no Ewoks please "

[Plooby]

Shhhhhhhhh! Don't give them any ideas! (w00t)

 

I can see some dev now reading this thinking... "Damn! We forgot to put in Ewoks! And while we're at it, maybe we can bring in some of those JarJar characters, too!!"