Question about the Mandalorians...

[GirlGamersUnite]

 

During KOTOR2 there are at least two opputunites to "recruit" mandlolrians for mandalore.

On my first playthrough I didn't do this and Kreia told me that the Mandalorian race would die... i am on my second playthrough now and have brought both sets of Mandalorians back to Dxun.... But does it make any difference???

 

 

(spoiler, just to be on the safe side )

[AromisTallion]

Kreia predicts the same fate for the Mandalorians no matter what.

 

How else would there be so few by the time the Star Wars movie timeline rolls around.

[sinister_sith]

yep jango is the last of the mandalorians and he's killed all to easily by a jedi

[Drakron]

...Kreia told me that the Mandalorian race would die...

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I take you dont watch the Star Wars movies ...

[Dead Skin Mask]

Kreia is wrong the Mandalorians don't really die. The Mandalorian race instead because of Jango becomes the Clone Troopers and later the Storm Troopers. There is also Boba Fett who still lives as well if you go by EU. So the Mandalorians actually become stronger than ever even though it's just one member of their race duplicated millions of times over.

 

Cheers!

[Darth Nuke]

Um people, Kreia's prophecy is wrong.

 

In the new Insider issue of Star Wars, there is an Mandalorian Article telling most of the history.

 

The Mandalorians are very much alive during the Clone Wars. Though not many are warriors. After Jango's Death, a Arc Clone Trooper who was not reconditioned by the Kaminoians, took off to Mandalore. He rebuilt a group of 212 Mandalorians. This Arc Trooper, named Spar, would take the title Mandalore(though more of a rank at THIS particular time concidering Mandalore is under control of a Mandalorian Government, not just one leader). These Mandalorians faught many battles in the Clone Wars, and by the end only 3 were believed to have survived. Spar, and two friends Tobbi Dala, and Fenn Shysa. Spar's future is never told, but Fenn and Tobi return to Mandalore to find it under the Control of slavers and Imperials. Years later Tobi would give his life to free Mandalore from the slavers. This would leave Fenn to rebuild the Mandalorians. Fenn himself took up the title Lord Mandalore, and would be the first Warlord in decades. After a 20 year reign Fenn was killed saving the life of Boba Fett on the planet of Shogun. Boba Fett, who was hired to kill Shysa, honored him, and took the title of Mandalore. Boba Fett and the new Mandalorian army would face off against the Yuuzhan Vong, and liberate three planet from them. In this time the Mandalorians are once again strong.

 

Kreia is wrong for one reason, and one reason only. She sees only the Dark Side, never the lightside. This is how the force works. The Sith only see what the Dark side shows them.

[GeneralCrimson]

Um people, Kreia's prophecy is wrong.

 

In the new Insider issue of Star Wars, there is an Mandalorian Article telling most of the history.

 

The Mandalorians are very much alive during the Clone Wars. Though not many are warriors. After Jango's Death, a Arc Clone Trooper who was not reconditioned by the Kaminoians, took off to Mandalore. He rebuilt a group of 212 Mandalorians. This Arc Trooper, named Spar, would take the title Mandalore(though more of a rank at THIS particular time concidering Mandalore is under control of a Mandalorian Government, not just one leader). These Mandalorians faught many battles in the Clone Wars, and by the end only 3 were believed to have survived. Spar, and two friends Tobbi Dala, and Fenn Shysa. Spar's future is never told, but Fenn and Tobi return to Mandalore to find it under the Control of slavers and Imperials. Years later Tobi would give his life to free Mandalore from the slavers. This would leave Fenn to rebuild the Mandalorians. Fenn himself took up the title Lord Mandalore, and would be the first Warlord in decades. After a 20 year reign Fenn was killed saving the life of Boba Fett on the planet of Shogun. Boba Fett, who was hired to kill Shysa, honored him, and took the title of Mandalore. Boba Fett and the new Mandalorian army would face off against the Yuuzhan Vong, and liberate three planet from them. In this time the Mandalorians are once again strong.

 

Kreia is wrong for one reason, and one reason only. She sees only the Dark Side, never the lightside. This is how the force works. The Sith only see what the Dark side shows them.

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is there a book on this? If so then tell me the full title

[Darth Nuke]

It's not in a book, but an Article. It's apart of the Star Wars Insider Magazine.

 

Issue 80:

 

http://www.starwars.com/community/news/200...ws20050110.html

[Fearless_Jedi]

Um people, Kreia's prophecy is wrong.

 

In the new Insider issue of Star Wars, there is an Mandalorian Article telling most of the history.

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I wouldn't believe any of the crap that comes out of that magazine, there have been many instances where the stuff they put in that magazine was just made up on the spot.

 

Example: In one issue of the insider the main article was about the seven forms of lightsaber combat shown in the movies which alone make no sense when compaired to movies and even other EU sources but furthermore the man who invented the lightsaber combat that the forms where modelled after (Nick Gillard) was never, ever, consulted about it (Confirmed by someone that works with him on Star Wars.com forums), thus making it a complete waste of paper and words (poor trees).

 

Furthermore, there are always discrepancies and contradictions among most EU stuff so your best bet is to believe the one thing from which all EU stuff comes from: the movies. Otherwise just believe what you want, probably the next credible source after the movies would be Star Wars.com but don't quote me on that.

[Darth Nuke]

Um, bud, that entire Article is continuity according to LFL. The man who wrote worked his ass off to make sure he got everything right. He is the same one who wrote the Who's Who articles, and his latest is this Mandalorian Article.

 

So it's continuity and should be offically believed.

[Drakron]

(S/)He made it up, George Lucas issued a warning years ago to nobody work in the Ep I - Ep. IV timeline since he was going to work with it.

 

So were exactly could someone "work his butt off" to get "everything right" when there is nothing on the subject due to Lucas "hands-off" warning years ago?

[Darth Nuke]

Um what are you talking about? there has been EU for and between the movies for years, and it's still happening as the Republic series is telling the Clone Wars. If fact this is whay George wanted.

 

George Lucas sees everything EU, and yes he does give the yay or nay on the subject matter. Just so they don't contradict his movies. Other than that all EU material is fine, and obviously he thought nothing wrong with the Mandalorian Article.

 

So Abel worked his ass off to make the best Mandalorian historical Article ever. It was a project by LFL(whom Lucas owns) because the Mandalorian history was so screwed up. Abel took it upon himself to write it, and did a fantastic job. The Mandalorians had been apart of the clone war since 1980, but AOTC changed a few things. For instance Boba Fett was the leader of the 212, but Lucas did his own thing, and that is his right. So continuity makes Boba Fett a Clone Trooper who had beliefs in the Mandalorians Way. Abel took everything that happened to the Mandalorians in the clone war and beyond and made it work.

 

Only thing Abel made up were the fixes which are now full fledge continuity. See Marvel told the story of the 212, who faught in the Clone Wars. Marvel also told the story of Fenn Shysa and Tobi Dala. Abel was working from previously created continuity made back in 1982. So yeah there was material.

[Darth Nuke]

and I know what you mean by what Lucas said bo. He said no one work in his movie era, right. Meaning the EU couldn't tell Anakins story, only Lucas could. And Lucas did, but the EU tells story's inbetween like it's down for years like in the OT.

 

Between EP 1 there is EU material okayed by Lucas

Between Ep 2 there is EU material Okayed by Lucas and so and so on.

[NeverwinterKnight]

Um what are you talking about? there has been EU for and between the movies for years, and it's still happening as the Republic series is telling the Clone Wars. If fact this is whay George wanted.

 

George Lucas sees everything EU, and yes he does give the yay or nay on the subject matter. Just so they don't contradict his movies. Other than that all EU material is fine, and obviously he thought nothing wrong with the Mandalorian Article.

 

So Abel worked his ass off to make the best Mandalorian historical Article ever. It was a project by LFL(whom Lucas owns) because the Mandalorian history was so screwed up. Abel took it upon himself to write it, and did a fantastic job. The Mandalorians had been apart of the clone war since 1980, but AOTC changed a few things. For instance Boba Fett was the leader of the 212, but Lucas did his own thing, and that is his right. So continuity makes Boba Fett a Clone Trooper who had beliefs in the Mandalorians Way. Abel took everything that happened to the Mandalorians in the clone war and beyond and made it work.

 

Only thing Abel made up were the fixes which are now full fledge continuity. See Marvel told the story of the 212, who faught in the Clone Wars. Marvel also told the story of Fenn Shysa and Tobi Dala. Abel was working from previously created continuity made back in 1982. So yeah there was material.

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you do know that lucas has people to look over all this stuff right? i think its an exaggeration to think george lucas reads over every single word of every single page of everything that is made with the star wars name on it.

[Darth Nuke]

Well he approves it then.

 

Matters not anyway. That Article is continuity, and Kreia is wrong.

[Darth Nuke]

Anyway here's the cover page fore the article. Our favorite Mandalorian is in the bottom left corner.

 

http://www.joecorroney.com/portfolio/Star_...rianHistory.jpg

[DarthReliguim]

Hey! That's Canderous.Oh yeah, since when did the Fetts become mandalorins?

[jaguars4ever]

Hey! That's Canderous.

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(w00t)

[Bulgaroctonus]

The Fetts have always been Mandalorians.....

 

Also, if you noticed in KOTOR I you could buy the armor of Cassus Fett, a Mandalorian warrior/outlaw.

[Darth Nuke]

Hey! That's Canderous.Oh yeah, since when did the Fetts become mandalorins?

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Lets not be hasty and say Boba and Jango were of the blood line of Cassus. Either way the Fetts have a strong connection to the Mandalorians. Boba Fett even became Mandalore in the New Jedi Order era.

[Darth_Radnor]

Kreia is wrong the Mandalorians don't really die. The Mandalorian race instead because of Jango becomes the Clone Troopers and later the Storm Troopers. There is also Boba Fett who still lives as well if you go by EU. So the Mandalorians actually become stronger than ever even though it's just one member of their race duplicated millions of times over.

 

Cheers!

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Oh man, the strength of the Mandalorian went down the toilet from KOTOR to the Original Trilogy...if the storm troopers are Mandalorians who easily die by blaster fire or one stroke of the lightsaber, what happened to their strength?

[Darth Nuke]

Kreia is wrong the Mandalorians don't really die. The Mandalorian race instead because of Jango becomes the Clone Troopers and later the Storm Troopers. There is also Boba Fett who still lives as well if you go by EU. So the Mandalorians actually become stronger than ever even though it's just one member of their race duplicated millions of times over.

 

Cheers!

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Oh man, the strength of the Mandalorian went down the toilet from KOTOR to the Original Trilogy...if the storm troopers are Mandalorians who easily die by blaster fire or one stroke of the lightsaber, what happened to their strength?

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The Clones in the OT were not all Jango Clones. Many of them were made up of a new clone template, or were just Galactic citizens who became Storm Troopers.

 

The Mandalorians during the Old Trilogy didn't have any power anymore, because they were enslaved by the Empire. Though a Mandalorian who faught in the Clone Wars would free them and make them into a pretty good size army again. Mandalorians by the time of the New Jedi Order are already on their way back to kick ass status.

[Darth_Radnor]

Kreia is wrong the Mandalorians don't really die. The Mandalorian race instead because of Jango becomes the Clone Troopers and later the Storm Troopers. There is also Boba Fett who still lives as well if you go by EU. So the Mandalorians actually become stronger than ever even though it's just one member of their race duplicated millions of times over.

 

Cheers!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Oh man, the strength of the Mandalorian went down the toilet from KOTOR to the Original Trilogy...if the storm troopers are Mandalorians who easily die by blaster fire or one stroke of the lightsaber, what happened to their strength?

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The Clones in the OT were not all Jango Clones. Many of them were made up of a new clone template, or were just Galactic citizens who became Storm Troopers.

 

The Mandalorians during the Old Trilogy didn't have any power anymore, because they were enslaved by the Empire. Though a Mandalorian who faught in the Clone Wars would free them and make them into a pretty good size army again. Mandalorians by the time of the New Jedi Order are already on their way back to kick ass status.

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That makes sense.

[DarthReliguim]

The Fetts have always been Mandalorians.....

 

Also, if you noticed in KOTOR I you could buy the armor of Cassus Fett, a Mandalorian warrior/outlaw.

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I don't remember them saying cassus was a mandalorian. :">

[Bulgaroctonus]

Well, perhaps not. But is inferred by the mention of Cassus fighting against the Republic during some battles. Maybe I just took it a step further and assumed that as a wanted man, fighting in a war that just ended, and a name like Fett, that he was probably a Mandalorian.