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U.S. Military helps to makes another game.


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I don't know if anyone else has heard of it but it looks pretty sweet. Think Full spectrum warrior but you get to shoot the gun. It's Called Close Combat: First to Fight.

Heres the link to the PC, and XBOX version.

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Yay! They could have a premiere lottery and the winner gets a rifle and a one-way ticket to Fallujah... <_<

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I wonder how realistic it is ... you know, executing unarmored injured POWs and all ...

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Freaking morons. Close Combat used to be a good series.

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I still love my Ghost Recon.

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Really, I don't see the need to turn a gaming discussion into one about politics. It's such a cliche. :thumbsup:

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I still love my Ghost Recon.

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If you like Ghost Recon you can play Full Spectrum Warrior until Ghost Recon II will be released

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I still love my Ghost Recon.

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If you like Ghost Recon you can play Full Spectrum Warrior until Ghost Recon II will be released

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Just a suggesestion if you liked Gost Recon dont get Gost Recon 2, it sucks. Unless your are just going to buy it for LIVE.

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I think the US Army Games Liaison Unit needs to go and get some in-country time in the Middle East. If I were a grunt dodging RPG fire in some godforsaken third world hellhole I'd be wondering how I'd qualify to become an army games advisor, sat in a software suite in CA drinking pepsi and putting in some serious time on the GI issue mouse.

Saying that, FSW was fun, so it isn't a complete waste of US taxpayer's money.

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A quick addendum:

1. It's the US Marines, not the army helping the developers. My bad. Mind you, it puts Full Metal Jacket into perspective:

Joker....you're posted to the 125th Combat Gaming Simulation Battalion.

2. Having viewed the links all I can say is that this is disgraceful. I'm a huge fan of the original Close Combat games, and raping the name like this is..... just wrong. I won't be touchnig the game with the proverbial bargepole.

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I imagine things like this are very difficult for people living in other countries. Unlike the other 99% of the time you buy games, here are the cards are out on the table. You know what you are supporting, and how: Imperial American and its military wing.

The thing is, in the 21st century, cultural imperialism is far more dangerous than any sort of militaristic action. Every day, every one of you non-US nationals reading this consume bits and pieces of the American Dream and, while doing so, absorb some of the memes implanted therein. "US Marines FPS IV: We're Gonna Kick More Ass" isn't the danger to your disparate ways of life. "Sims 2" is. It's just sneakier about it.

In a way, I think only the fundamentalist Islamic factions in the Mid-East have clued in on this. They realize it's a war of metanarratives. They just don't know how to fight it, nor do they have the cultural graft, and so they plant bombs, which just ain't gonna work.

So relax. Play the game if you want to - it isn't any worse than any other bit of American entertainment you consume. Hell, it might be better.

Also, please note that there isn't any overt reactionary lesson in the above. I think it's possible to argue that the world needs at least one empire to function, and that the American Empire is a bit more pleasant than most of the alternatives would be. Let's just hope the next empire in line (hellllo, China) is the same.

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I think the US Army Games Liaison Unit needs to go and get some in-country time in the Middle East.


Actually, many of the Army advisors helping with the Army prototype 'Full Spectrum Warrior' either saw combat time in Desert Storm or held/hold active training roles at Army institutions across the country. The commerical version of the simulation is certainly sexxxed up for the general public but the original prototype was very much a product of constant collaboration between the developers and experienced Army SMEs.

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it's possible to argue that the world needs at least one empire to function, and that the American Empire is a bit more pleasant  than most of the alternatives would be.  Let's just hope the next empire in line (hellllo, China) is the same.

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Since when do people "need" to be ruled over and dominated by a single empire :thumbsup:. I anything I hope China if that next "Empire" in line is no where near as capitalist as the American Government in its foreign policy then maybe we wont see 75% of the worlds wealth in the hands of only 25% of the worlds population perhaps take a more left wing socialist approach to helping other countries and then maybe all these Horrible "alternatives" might not get as bad as they do.

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Read Colossus, by Dr. Niall Ferguson, and you might get some understanding of why one might believe that.

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Since when do people "need" to be ruled over and dominated by a single empire :huh:. I anything I hope China if that next "Empire" in line is no where near as capitalist as the American Government in its foreign policy then maybe we wont see 75% of the worlds wealth in the hands of only 25% of the worlds population perhaps take a more left wing socialist approach to helping other countries and then maybe all these Horrible "alternatives" might not get as bad as they do.

It's been that way since the dawn of time. History is about empires rising and falling all the time. And when there hasn't been a clear hegemony, people have suffered the consequences of power struggles, or even worse (i.e. Cold War).
To think it can be any other way and work is just a utopia.

I'd rather have a democracy ruling the world (with all its flaws) through aggressive economical strategies than a totalitarian regime like the chinese, thank you very much.

And um, last time I checked, socialism had been proven a failure.

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And um, last time I checked, socialism had been proven a failure.

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Keep saying that as you use your Nokia phone :)

Communism failed. Socialism is alive, well and kicking. ...and will be for quite some time.

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Ugh! Full Spectrum Warrior is the epitome of boring video games. It's the same thing, over and over again. No variety. Every mission is completed in the exact same manner. As an Army educatioinal tool (which is what it was developed for) it is perfect. As an entertainment product, it sucks.




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