Drakron Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list.
Karzak Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Even better! They have an email address. I would prefer that anyway, its hard to archive PM's and the inbox is very small. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Shadowstrider Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Even better! They have an email address. I would prefer that anyway, its hard to archive PM's and the inbox is very small. Obviously, we cannot block e-mail addresses either.
Karzak Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Even better! They have an email address. I would prefer that anyway, its hard to archive PM's and the inbox is very small. Obviously, we cannot block e-mail addresses either. You can not read posts and PM's as well. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Shadowstrider Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Whats your point Karzack? If you're arrested by a cop and he drops you the miranda rights card, and you refuse to read it, it doesn't mean he didn't give them to you. If you block the authority, then you cannot be warned.
Karzak Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Whats your point Karzack? If you're arrested by a cop and he drops you the miranda rights card, and you refuse to read it, it doesn't mean he didn't give them to you. If you block the authority, then you cannot be warned. My point you just made, it doesn't matter if you are warned or not. If we can choose to ignore annoying posters, why can't we choose to ignore annoying mods? After all it really won't matter. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Shadowstrider Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Are you serious? You don't understand the reason is you could deny that you were warned? You could be warned three times, then banned, and e-mail the admin "I was never warned." Its exactly why I used the Miranda rights example. Karzack, don't feign ignorance.
Karzak Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Are you serious? You don't understand the reason is you could deny that you were warned? You could be warned three times, then banned, and e-mail the admin "I was never warned." Its exactly why I used the Miranda rights example. Karzack, don't feign ignorance. So what? If you are warned three times you are warned three times, it makes absolutely no difference if you see the warnings or not. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Shadowstrider Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Wow Karzak, I didn't think I would have to explain it beyond that. I'll let you reread it, rather then spend any more time on this obviously frivilous argument with you. Enjoy yourself.
Karzak Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Wow Karzak, I didn't think I would have to explain it beyond that. I'll let you reread it, rather then spend any more time on this obviously frivilous argument with you. Enjoy yourself. Its good to see you surrender to my logic before you bail Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Magena Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Even better! They have an email address. I would prefer that anyway, its hard to archive PM's and the inbox is very small. wow!! I took a totally different understanding to what Karzak was saying there -- I thought that he was saying that he prefers email to pm's because he can archive it in case an issue comes up later, and pm's can't be archived (well, not as easily). With that thought, I agree. I prefer emails to pms because I can keep the email longer, and I don't have to worry quite as much about getting rid of old emails to make room for new ones - at which point everything is lost for good (cause I'm too lazy to save each pm individually, truth be told). --- however, from the last few comments, I don't think that is what was originally meant.
Karzak Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Even better! They have an email address. I would prefer that anyway, its hard to archive PM's and the inbox is very small. wow!! I took a totally different understanding to what Karzak was saying there -- I thought that he was saying that he prefers email to pm's because he can archive it in case an issue comes up later, and pm's can't be archived (well, not as easily). With that thought, I agree. I prefer emails to pms because I can keep the email longer, and I don't have to worry quite as much about getting rid of old emails to make room for new ones - at which point everything is lost for good (cause I'm too lazy to save each pm individually, truth be told). --- however, from the last few comments, I don't think that is what was originally meant. That is what I meant, I lost a lot of PM's from my last beating by the board mods cause my inbox maxxed and I was too emotianally upset over it to cut and paste them somewhere else. Although my larger point is that ignoring mods or recieving their PM's doesn't make any real difference. It's not like actually getting warnings is going to make me nicer anyway, quite the opposite in fact. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Drakron Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Well I do think E-mail notices work better, not I would be aware of notices E-mailed to me since I tend to never look at my E-mail account. Best option would be a ignore mods and even ignore PMs from mods but having a "special account" that PMs from then could not be ignore, I dont think that mods sould be giving warnings in the first place since that duty sould be handle by adminstators. And ignoring moderators is a good thing, expecialy with fan mods were I am forced to read their opinion posts, like it or not.
~Di Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Hmm... actually blocking obnoxious PMs from certain folks is the primary appeal of an Ignore function. I'm not being flippant; totally serious. Excessive and abusive PMs are the bane of any message board. Being able to simply flip a switch and block PMs from those who are using the function as harassment is really quite handy. And keeps board user complaints to administration down, since it's quite easy to handle the problem on one's own.
Karzak Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I would agree .... Except Ignore also blocks PMs from people in the ignore list. Hmm... actually blocking obnoxious PMs from certain folks is the primary appeal of an Ignore function. I'm not being flippant; totally serious. Excessive and abusive PMs are the bane of any message board. Being able to simply flip a switch and block PMs from those who are using the function as harassment is really quite handy. And keeps board user complaints to administration down, since it's quite easy to handle the problem on one's own. Yea, its not like you can just look at the sender and delete it without reading Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Magena Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Yea, its not like you can just look at the sender and delete it without reading I haven't had so many pm's at a given time that I looked for the option, but on most boards, you can sort through your mail, doing a "next" or "last" to go from mail to mail, and on those days where I haven't been watching who sent me messages, but just looking at the messages, I've run across things I didn't want... ok, so those are usually email and have to do with breast enlargement or viagra... but still, the point is that there have been times when having the ability to not only ignore posts, but pm's would be a nice thing indeed. HOWEVER, I think the idea of being able to ignore a mod by the flip of a switch is a bad thing. - I don't know if I ever made it on someones ignore, and I wouldn't doubt that it has happened, but often users will get more upset by the fact that a mod didn't even take the time to send them so much as a pm saying "be nice - this warning is official" or some such, than to just suddenly be banned because they had racked up too many warnings. Believe me, I've seen users who get upity because they were banned, but they had never read their pm's (and on the Iply and BIS boards I could tell) or their pm box was overflowing so all I/we got back was a notice saying that the user had too many pm's... which is when I tend to resort to email. - though even those get passed by, because so many people get so much junk mail.
Karzak Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Well, my PM inbox is full, so if someone needs to warn me they need to email me. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
kumquatq3 Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Well, my PM inbox is full, so if someone needs to warn me they need to email me. actually, I think they just give you the warning anyways
Karzak Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 Well, my PM inbox is full, so if someone needs to warn me they need to email me. actually, I think they just give you the warning anyways We are what we are, if my posting style and morals draws warnings, I will eventually be banned, mods don't have the power to change my nature. They do have the power to piss me off though Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
Drakron Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 True. I remenber Helge back in BIS forums that managed to push my "I want to rip that person a part just by the fact it exists" button ... I did not just disliked him, I Hate him as much I can possibly hate someone. Fortunatly I had him on my ignore list before he made to be a mod (thank to the "friendly" system implemented back then) and so I was excused from reading his posts.
Rhombus Posted February 20, 2004 Author Posted February 20, 2004 gray / black with white text on it (read: the current skin) is very readable, and imo less difficult or tyring to read than a light skin with black text. but yeah, as long as everybody gets the skin he likes, it doesn't hurt. i suggest making a dark violet / green one, which would spread a nice, vegetable atmosphere Ok, just to defend myself, the text wasn't white when I posted this, more like grey... have they changed it recently or have I've gone insane.. the current one works nice enough for me to be happy. and thankts for making my thread into a big one, albeit off-topic... What do you want?..
Fionavar Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I believe that admin has and continues to make tweaks here and there. For instance the banner is now linked properly and I would asusme this is just another of those silenet adjustments The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161)
roshan Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 gray / black with white text on it (read: the current skin) is very readable, and imo less difficult or tyring to read than a light skin with black text. but yeah, as long as everybody gets the skin he likes, it doesn't hurt. i suggest making a dark violet / green one, which would spread a nice, vegetable atmosphere Ok, just to defend myself, the text wasn't white when I posted this, more like grey... have they changed it recently or have I've gone insane.. the current one works nice enough for me to be happy. and thankts for making my thread into a big one, albeit off-topic... it always looked white to me, maybe it was your monitor settings or something.
Magena Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 gray / black with white text on it (read: the current skin) is very readable, and imo less difficult or tyring to read than a light skin with black text. but yeah, as long as everybody gets the skin he likes, it doesn't hurt. i suggest making a dark violet / green one, which would spread a nice, vegetable atmosphere Ok, just to defend myself, the text wasn't white when I posted this, more like grey... have they changed it recently or have I've gone insane.. the current one works nice enough for me to be happy. and thankts for making my thread into a big one, albeit off-topic... uh huh, sure, use that as your defense. :D yes, I have noticed some changes too. I rather liked the grey text... maybe that will be an option down the road.
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