jedigangsta99 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 i found zalbark handy his strength helped me win a few battles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 But he had no personality. And gee that was random lol Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastaGAW Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 That's true. But since several of these worlds (notably Manaan, Malachor, Telos) were invented for KOTOR, they wouldn't be on a regular Star Wars starmap. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Telos wasn't created for KOTOR it already existed. It was the site of one of the few Star Wars books I actually read. It's apart of the Before Episode 1 series. Qui Gonn Jinn's first apprentice Xantos was from Telos. That means it was around during a New Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 That's true. But since several of these worlds (notably Manaan, Malachor, Telos) were invented for KOTOR, they wouldn't be on a regular Star Wars starmap. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Telos wasn't created for KOTOR it already existed. It was the site of one of the few Star Wars books I actually read. It's apart of the Before Episode 1 series. Qui Gonn Jinn's first apprentice Xantos was from Telos. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bravo gaw, you know your EU well. Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I mean, come on. What are their names Naver and Alitsab or something? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (w00t) If it is only outlining good characters though....I thought Mira was good. It doesn't surprise me that Mandalore might be bad. And the wookiee bounty hunter will probably join you afdter you defeat him or something. Maybe atris and Atton are connected? If she's a Jedi, he may have helped smuggle her away from the sith's notice. Hmmm... any thoughts on that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was thinking about Atton having a role in the recent Jedi civil war, and I am wondering if maybe he helped set up a sort of under ground rail road for jedi to escape the sith, you know moved them from planet to planet hidding them from the sith extermination squads. Those were the only 3 you couldn't kill, which is why I think Canderous is mandalore: 1. he was one of the more well liked characters 2. the other 2 surviving characters (t3 and hk) both were brought back (even though you have to fix hk) so it stands to reason they'd bring back the last of the surviving charies as well and 3. He seems like a good candidate for mandalore. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In the review it says that T3's memory circuts are damaged, I wonder if we will have to repair him as well? "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 I was thinking the same thing about atton, only most things I've read on him paint him as a self serving sort of guy. Now it's true the Republic could have paid him well or something, but I still wonder if he would have done it because he'd risk bringing down the wrath of the sith upon his own head, which is bad when they are basically running things at this point. This leads me to believe he has a personal stake in all this, if he helped the jedi out. He's either a jedi/former jedi, a sympathetic force sensitive, or he owes a debt to the jedi (but mainly I'm thinking of atris). Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I was thinking the same thing about atton, only most things I've read on him paint him as a self serving sort of guy. Now it's true the Republic could have paid him well or something, but I still wonder if he would have done it because he'd risk bringing down the wrath of the sith upon his own head, which is bad when they are basically running things at this point. This leads me to believe he has a personal stake in all this, if he helped the jedi out. He's either a jedi/former jedi, a sympathetic force sensitive, or he owes a debt to the jedi (but mainly I'm thinking of atris). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It would kinda make sense that he would maybe have loyaltys to someone other than the PC and thus far Atris sounds about right. I wonder if maybe he (as someone else mentioned in this thread) had his force ability cut the same as the PC maybe for similar reasons or maybe for the pure purpose of doing whatever he did in the jedi civil war. I would think that it would be the best way to avoid detection from the sith if they couldn't find you using the force. Also maybe he was counting on his connection being re-established once the war was over or the council was safe but soemthing happend and he no longer whats to be a jedi. Very long shot I know. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 I was thinking the same thing about atton, only most things I've read on him paint him as a self serving sort of guy. Now it's true the Republic could have paid him well or something, but I still wonder if he would have done it because he'd risk bringing down the wrath of the sith upon his own head, which is bad when they are basically running things at this point. This leads me to believe he has a personal stake in all this, if he helped the jedi out. He's either a jedi/former jedi, a sympathetic force sensitive, or he owes a debt to the jedi (but mainly I'm thinking of atris). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It would kinda make sense that he would maybe have loyaltys to someone other than the PC and thus far Atris sounds about right. I wonder if maybe he (as someone else mentioned in this thread) had his force ability cut the same as the PC maybe for similar reasons or maybe for the pure purpose of doing whatever he did in the jedi civil war. I would think that it would be the best way to avoid detection from the sith if they couldn't find you using the force. Also maybe he was counting on his connection being re-established once the war was over or the council was safe but soemthing happend and he no longer whats to be a jedi. Very long shot I know. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You never know. Atris may have saved him at one time or another. Regardless of whether he's lying or not, that 1 part in one of th ign vids where he says "like all sith, revan and malak turned on each other", makes me think he's set against the sith. Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gandalf Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 who are the 5 jedi exactly? Or are u counting the main character as one of the 5? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes I am. You have: the Exile Kreia Visas Marr Handmaiden Disciple "You shall not pass!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 If disciple can actually be trained. As I mentioned earlier, I've never seen him with a lightsaber. Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastaGAW Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Using non- jedi was interesting than using Jedi all the time because Jedi couldn't build up many skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gandalf Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I think we've all just assumed that Disciple can be trained, since he's wearing Jedi-esque robes and is called "Disciple," a name evokative of participation in some sort of religious/philosophical organization. Like the Jedi and the Sith. "You shall not pass!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I think we've all just assumed that Disciple can be trained, since he's wearing Jedi-esque robes and is called "Disciple," a name evokative of participation in some sort of religious/philosophical organization. Like the Jedi and the Sith. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> very true but the name disciple could also mean that he is nothing more than the lacky of the queen of onderon or something to that effect. So he might not be force sensitive, though if two out of the three can be trained I am willing to bet that he can be as well, and that its just a matter of the fact that they haven't yet shown us a pict of him with a saber. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gandalf Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 True. I think he may be a Force Adept because of the pairing of him with Handmaiden and Visas Marr. "You shall not pass!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gandalf Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Another idea! I saw a screen shot of the Harbinger docked at the Peragus Minig Facility. I'll bet that's where you head after Peragus! There are also screenshots of Sith Assassins attacking you there, and Darth Sion makes his apprearance on the Harbinger, the ship you were on before you woke up in the kolto tank! Just guesswork and logic, mind you! "You shall not pass!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Its quite likely that we will be going to the Harbinger before we leave peragus, but if thats the case then we will more than likely loose Kreia around that time, or maybe we are on the harbinger more than once during the course of the game. But saying we loose kreia that early in the game I am begining to wonder how long it will take for use to get to use our first set of force powers? "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gandalf Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Uncertain. You probably lose Kreia at about the same point you lost Bastila in KOTOR. I'll bet the Harbinger visit at Peragus is just to give you a taste of who you're up against so that you'll have more incentive to: Denethor (Return of the King): FLEE!!! FLEE for your lives!!! (spittle flying) "You shall not pass!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maia Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 IIRC, Kreia's Exp bonus has its last upgrade at lvl 13. I'd say that she remains with the party for the first half of the game. The scene we saw in the trailer probably doesn't lead to her demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syed Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 maybe kreia trains you to become good than turns on you and tells you to join her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syed Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 kazic, your weird how do you not think atris is hot?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gandalf Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Probably because Kazic's a girl or something like that. "You shall not pass!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Because I'm female syed. As for the harbringer theory, that was already mentioned on the last page I believe. It does appear that you have to go there before escaping in the hawk probably to find parts to repair it with. Kreia probably escapes Sion in that encounter in the vids and dies later, as stated above. But, really, do we even know that she'll perish? Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad'en Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I hope so.... i cant stand being told what to do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazic Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 LOL, that's terrible Jad'en! Welcome to the Pink side of the Force Revenge is a dish best served in a warm, pink tupperware dish! Grrrr to Atris! Snooty, stuck-up little.... Pink Side Master to Darth Gandalf, Trooper, Ronil Organ, Bokishi, Mr_Dashman, Stargate: 2000, mista_me, DarthDoGooder, GarethCarrots, Ludozee, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad'en Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Hehe why thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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