Constentin Lévine Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 When confuse, a druid can cast Beetle Shell on an ennemy without consentement (there is no hit roll) independently of they resolve (just your int (-5 because confuse) influence the duration, that can be extend by a confuse priest by the way (beneficial effect). The stunning effect is unconditional. While stunned, the ennemy's insidious shield absorbing some 200 damages before shattering, but he stay targetable. This is a good way to debuff him (already -10 fortitude), preventing him to do some hostilities during this time. Good tool for megabosses in my opinion. 3
hansvedic Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Berserker/Druid now has a new tool. Interesting. Nice find! EDIT: does DoT damage affect the shield? Edited November 29, 2021 by hansvedic 1
Not So Clever Hound Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 Nice find. In case you hadn't seen it at the time, there's been some nice discussion about confused plus emergency friendly spells and megaboss application in the thread below. Mostly about Withdraw but Beetle shell is probably better overall, maybe not for HoW though. 1
Boeroer Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said: Nice find. In case you hadn't seen it at the time, there's been some nice discussion about confused plus emergency friendly spells and megaboss application in the thread below. Mostly about Withdraw but Beetle shell is probably better overall, maybe not for HoW though. Ha - I was about to link to the same thread. Confusion is not an affliction, it's an inspiration! 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Not So Clever Hound Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, hansvedic said: Berserker/Druid now has a new tool. Interesting. I'd say Tactician/Druid is potentially a better fit because it will have more flex between triggering Confused and Brilliant to replenish his spells. Otherwise as Zerkers you won't go far with 2 beetle shells and it will be a pain to get rid of confuse / apply brilliant / get spells back / reapply frenzy (confused)... no? Tactician can get an easier setup to alternate between Brilliant Tactician and Tactical Dilemma.
Not So Clever Hound Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boeroer said: Ha - I was about to link to the same thread. For once in my life, I ninja'd Boeroer. YES! 1 1
Constentin Lévine Posted November 29, 2021 Author Posted November 29, 2021 I see in the thread taht Elric Galad had the same idea 8 minutes ago, hansvedic said: EDIT: does DoT damage affect the shield? Yes, the shield absorb damages from eveything. 2 minutes ago, Boeroer said: Confusion is not an affliction, it's an inspiration! Absolutely! 1 1
Boeroer Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 Bererker/Druid is way cooler of course. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Constentin Lévine Posted November 29, 2021 Author Posted November 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said: I'd say Tactician/Druid is potentially a better fit because it will have more flex between triggering Confused and Brilliant to replenish his spells. Otherwise as Zerkers you won't go far with 2 beetle shells and it will be a pain to get rid of confuse / apply brilliant / get spells back / reapply frenzy (confused)... no? Tactician can get an easier setup to alternate between Brilliant Tactician and Tactical Dilemma. I'm preparing a build on the Tactician confusion inspiration who potentially add in one Clear Out + Mob Stance 6*20% of hostlies effects durations for everyone in 5m radius (tactician + Beckoner + dual Frostballs + Flancked) 1
Elric Galad Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Not So Clever Hound said: For once in my life, I ninja'd Boeroer. YES! Technically, I Ninjaed your Ninja since I was already speaking about Beetle Shell in the thread you ninjaed. By ninjaing Boeroer, the only thing you achieve is pointing that I ninjaed everybody ahahahahahahahah It's a Ninjaception. 1 2
Not So Clever Hound Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elric Galad said: It's a Ninjaception. Well, as long as you did not: abduct me, sedate me, invade my subconscious and manipulate my thoughts to arrive to this very moment... I'm cool with you showing off your ninja muscles. It's only fair. Edited November 29, 2021 by Not So Clever Hound 2
Elric Galad Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Not So Clever Hound said: Well, as long as you did not: abduct me, sedate me, invade my subconscious and manipulate my thoughts to arrive to this very moment... I'm cool with you showing off your ninja muscles. It's only fair. I'm living in the shadows of obscure abilities. But the only things I manipulate are the Gamedata files. 1
NotDumbEnough Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 If there's one thing I think Deadfire is lacking in, it's the ability to target anyone with single target spells. Such as using Champion's Boon on an enemy, or Silent Scream on an ally. I can see why Withdraw or Beetle Shell could be broken, but why not other spells?
Constentin Lévine Posted November 30, 2021 Author Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, NotDumbEnough said: If there's one thing I think Deadfire is lacking in, it's the ability to target anyone with single target spells. Such as using Champion's Boon on an enemy, or Silent Scream on an ally. I can see why Withdraw or Beetle Shell could be broken, but why not other spells? I think it is about coherence, the priest faith protect him and tis allies, but he can comdamn who he want, a cipher can reveal an allie potential, echoing with this mind, because he know him, but he can also desintegate them if he want, where a druid can call lot of insects to disturb and sting this ennemies, like in ancien Egypt, ect . Sometimes I would to target someone whith a spell I cant, that was boring me, but this was not as a lack of consistency in my opinion. No? Edit : the Relationship system could have an impact in this sens I think, an allie with a very negative relationship also targeted by On Ennemies spells could give a very consistent dimension to the dialogues options! Edited November 30, 2021 by Constentin Lévine 1
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