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Not sure about that. I do seem to remember something about the US government not wanting to subsidize it, although I don't remember the circumstances. Australia got dibs on 10m doses of the first production run too apparently: https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/11/coronavirus-covid-19-information-about-the-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19.pdf

Looks like Europeans are getting a better deal on the first batches of the potential new Covid vaccine by Pfizer (US) and BioNTech (Germany) "The European Union has struck a deal to initially pay less for Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine candidate than the United States, an EU official told Reuters News Agency as the bloc announced on Wednesday it had secured an agreement for up to 300 million doses. The experimental drug, developed in conjunction with Germany’s BioNTech, is the frontrunner in a global race to produce a vaccine, with interim data released on Monday showing it was more than 90 percent effective at protecting people from COVID-19 in a large-scale clinical trial." https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/11/11/coronavirus-europe-to-pay-less-than-us-for-pfizer-vaccine @BruceVCany idea what deals the UK (and SA) would have struck with the two companies?

Moved to general gaming section as there was no mentioned of what game... according to google translate it's Portuguese "My pc has all the necessary settings to run the game. I was playing without problems when I started to receive the message saying that the game is "broken". The system (Windons 10) tells me that the game is broken and asks to contact support. Can you check what's going on, if something's wrong? What do you say? I have to reinstall the game and lose all my saves ...?!"

New thread:

I really regret buying Borderlands 3, even at half price. Didn't get any of the DLC. The new season pass is for 3 DLC's that all got slammed by reviewers (just reskins for characters at like $15 each). Still having a lot of fun with Borderlands 2 though. Trying to get from OP2 to OP3 on my siren. Nice and challenging. Reinstalled X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter (from GOG). Dusted off my old Saitek X52 flight stick and had a lot of fun yesterday getting to learn the basics in a Z-95 again Edit: Jeebus the quoting and formatting in this board software is irritating. Old thread:

Apparently that incident pissed off Putin. They (Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia) have suddenly become the best friends ever and Armenia and Azerbaijan signed not only a new truce, but a peace deal with terms and conditions decided by (a fed up) Putin. "The peace deal, which was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev and Armenia's prime minister, took effect on Tuesday from 01:00 local time (21:00 GMT Monday). Under the deal, Azerbaijan will hold on to areas of Nagorno-Karabakh that it has taken during the conflict. Armenia has also agreed to withdraw from several other adjacent areas over the next few weeks." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54882564

Agreed. Removed the post. I'm sure CC saw what he needed to see by now anyway.

The same continent also produced things like republics, democracy and a few other things. It's not all bad. Edit: As for the rest of the world obsessing over American politics, you might as well face it, the US is a major trading (and military) partner for a large number of countries. What happens in Washington DC *does* matter as it can have severe (or positive) consequences to other countries. They may not have a vote, but you bet, they have a keen interest in it.

Watched a few highlights from yesterdays match between FC Liverpool and Manchester City in the English Premiere League. Game ended 1-1. The two goalscorers... Jesus and Mohammad Edit: Gabriel Jesus and Mohammad Salah that is.

Looks bad... we had our share of wild weather last week. Severe storms with hail. Much better now with pleasant weather 24/7. Taken by a friend of a friend, two suburbs away:

Paragons Bruce... paragons

Take the words of an expert in democracy, the election was rigged! Belarus President Aleksandr Lukashenko: "The bastion of democracy... Look at what's going on with this election. It is a shame, a mockery of the democracy"

Speaking of hyperbole... It was never about communism (or socialism), that's just scare tactics and a propaganda shtick from the 1950's McCarthy era. The US has two right wing parties. Both are corporate stooges, doing the bidding of their corporate masters and what their respective lobbyists tells them to do. No, I'm not American, so I can only see if from the outside, but seen from the outside, the only visible difference between the two parties is: One is a bunch of religious nutcases that wants to turn the US into a theocracy (Khamenei says hello fellow believers) and the other side a bunch of secular nutcases that wants to turn the US into atheist oligarchy (Nietzsche says hello fellow nihilists). Paranoia in society runs so deep now, that only few individuals can see what is outside the cave (if not already done, I would recommend reading Plato's Cave allegory in 'The Republic' (around 500bc), it's a bloody brilliant story). The US is not divided in left and right, but in the have and have nots. Eventually the inequality in society will tear the fabric of society apart. Rinse and repeat a 5000 year old cyclic tradition. It's will get worse and worse as time goes by. Will the collapse happen in my lifetime? Maybe even, who knows/

Better than being required to have odd citizens.

US Presidential elections are going to be really fun to watch when AOC is old enough to run

Thread split into two new threads... US 2020 election special thread: And a thread for everything not related to US 2020 elections:

According to Faux News, Biden needs to win Nevada to reach 270. Because they are who they are, I wouldn't trust anything they write (other than possibly sports results), but interesting none the less if even the staunchest of Trump supporting media sees it as being close to the end.

From the world of Australia politics. Murdoch may be tolerated the US, but his native country is thoroughly fed up with his constant lies and interfering in politics with deliberate misinformation: "More than 500,000 Australians have signed the petition to parliament since it launched three weeks ago. News Corp Australia controls 70% of local newspaper circulation. Mr Murdoch has not commented on the petition." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54819803

Old politics thread Please put stuff related to the 2020 US presidential election in the *other* thread, created specifically for this subject?

Old thread Trying to split the subjects a bit. Lets see if we can keep US election stuff in this one

He comes across as someone who needs a walking aid already... much less doing any running

It just means that Biden is working with the devil and they need to pray harder to be heard. I'm not even kidding, I actually believe that's how some of those "evangelicals" think.

From the BBC: There has been no official comment from the Russian government, but the pro-Kremlin politician Vyacheslav Nikonov was unafraid to revel in the uncertainty surrounding the result. "Whoever wins the legal battles half of Americans will not consider them the lawful president," he wrote on Facebook. "Let's stock up on large quantities of popcorn." Not going to bother putting a picture of a smirking Putin here, but I'm almost certain he's busy congratulating himself on a job well done in 2016

I checked up on the BBC what happens if it's a draw and Congress and the Supreme Court can't work it out either in time for the January 21'st deadline. In that case, Nancy Pelosi becomes president. Go figure how people would react to that.

@ComradeMaster Which would probably lead to my previously alluded to Max Mad scenario. I expect GD to be among the survivors in 5-10 years time unless he runs out of ammo. Edit: I have a feeling both Xi and Putin are broadcasting this live as part of an educational program, showing why democracy is bad for you.