Hiro Protagonist II

Lephys, are you feeling okay? Or you just want to weasel your way around this.

If you could Lephys, please discuss the topics of what the OP mentioned in his post. And you are trolling and not being productive. And you did troll the OP with your first post. The Winter 2014 release date wasn't a viable date to release this game and it would have been rushed. Obsidian knew that and delayed it to 2015 now. The OP was right with the Winter 2014 release date. On Said topic, the OP was indeed right. If Obsidian kept to the Winter 2014 release, it would have been rushed. Hence his question, Is Obsidian trying to rush this game?. If kept to the Winter 2014 release schedule which is what Obsidian wanted to do, which Feargus and the dev's mentioned over the course of this year, then the answer would have been YES. One step at the time. I'm still working on the other evidence that proves the OP was right which you fail to acknowledge.

Hang on. You're saying the OP was wrong about everything? The OP mentioning PoE was going to be released before December 2014. And you're now ignoring the fact that there was going to be an intended Summer 2014 release mentioned by a dev last year in 2013. You're now ignoring the fact that Feargus was concerned about the release date of DA:I and he didn't want to release PoE around the same time? You're ignoring these facts? So you think the OP is a troll or not? Lephys, Caladian and DCParry think he is.

"That's what the role of the class is" cannot be the reason why the role of the class should be that. That would be a paradox. You misunderstand my meaning. There's a difference between a class being a heavy hitter, and a class's role literally being "DPS." A Wizard can do a lot of damage-per-second, too, with the right spells. However, the function of a wizard isn't "generate oodles of damage per second." It's "cast spells that do lots of different things." You can easily build a Wizard to not-maximize DPS. If you use a Rogue's class uniqueness, you deal oodles of DPS. You can't Sneak Attack differently. All you can do is more damage. Again, there's nothing wrong with a class being prone to deal more damage, in general. But, I find it less-than-ideal for a class's core mechanic to be "boost DPS." I think it's, at the very least, weaker than the other classes' functions (as well as more restrictive). The Ranger is a Heavy Hitter, too, and its animal companion doesn't restrict it to a damage boost. Why NOT? There is no paradox as much as you say it is. And I didn't misunderstand your meaning. And stop changing the definition of a heavy hitter and DPS class. PoE takes a lot from 4E and one of the DPS classes is the Rogue. It's also a heavy hitter. It's also called a striker. Just because you don't find it ideal doesn't mean it's wrong. It is what it is and designed to be by the dev's. You're now against the dev's on their design? Also, if the class needs to be tweaked, Obsidian will tweak it. As it stands, the Rogue does it's job. It does it's role of being a heavy hitter DPS class.

You're saying the OP was wrong with anything he said in his first post?

I'm not going to provide 'my' definition of trolling. You can look it up yourself and it's what you did from your very first post and have done so with your posts. And nice strawman with 'disagreeing with me or the OP is trolling'. No, Lephys I know this is hard for your to understand. And the fact that I provided proof of the OP's claim with at least the Matt Chat and you were dismissing that evidence shows how much of a troll you are. Even if I do show you evidence, you dismiss it. That's the way you are with disagreeing with everything and dismissing evidence when it proves you wrong. Just man up and say you were wrong. And no need for sarcasm. Also, how might you go about easing into a thread? Well for one, stop with the troll posts. That would be a good start! Don't worry about posting like a half a post if it's still a troll post. Can you do something as simple as that? Do you need someone in real life to teach how not to troll? Maybe go to school and learn how not to troll with your posts and stop trolling the OP when you jump into a thread? Yeah, that would help. And back on topic, the OP's concerns were justified and Obsidian confirmed them. So the OP was right all along, something you still haven't acknowledged with the OP being right. Still living in denial and weaselling your way around this with your slimy debating tactics..

Why not? That's what the role of the class is. It's a DPS heavy hitter and it's designed that way by the dev's.

No better for the trolls to complain and for me to whack them. It gives the trolls like Lephys something to do, for them to jump into threads and call the OP a troll and for me to show them the trolls that they are. So how many things has the OP got right now? He was right about this was planned to be release before December (Summer release). He was right about concerns by Obsidian with releasing around the time of DA:I. And he was right about is Obsidian rushing the game for a Winter 2014 release. But according to some trolls, he's just a troll.

So says the mighty Troll Lephys, who constantly avoids questions. And you have posted your troll posts right from the very beginning, stating your stance on the OP. And it doesn't take a prophet to know that releasing this game in December would have been rushing it. And the OP is right again. Which is what the OP and many of us were concerned about. The game WOULD have been rushed if it was released in December. It actually proves what the OP is saying is true with asking questions like, "Is Obsidian trying to rush this game?" And also "Why their rushing a "Kickstarter" Game ill never know they have all the time in the world to shape this game up the way they want." Yes, Obsidian would be rushing this game if released in December. So yes, if Obsidian had kept to their Winter 2014 deadline, it would have been rushed. Keep living in denial Lephys.

LOL. Who would have thought? And, the Rogue is pure awesome done right. DPS and holding the front line is what I used to do in 4E pnp. I found the Rogue is more of a swashbuckler in 4E. But as you say you have to get the build right, otherwise it will screw you over. Hah. hahaha. I recall a certain thread some time back (oh look, earlier this year where I mentioned this and even mentioned the Escape power), when I said a Rogue can tank on the front line. And as usual, I got shot down for it. Anyway, I prefer not to do these threads myself as I've always known you can build min-max characters right from the start, even before the beta. And I've been doing so since the beta went live. I highly doubt the whole game, classes, races, encounters, A.I., everything will be balanced when the game is released. There just seems to be way too much to fix with the game in the next two months imo. But I'll definitely be creating threads on my builds AFTER the game is released. It is good to see you doing these threads though.

Nice write up. What I've always said over the last two years. Now we just have to wait for the invisibility power to be implemented and can't wait to take out my party of ninjas. And I love the teleport spell escape power to teleport all over the place as well as into flanking positions.

What are you on about? The Matt Chat has nothing to do with the release date to Winter 2014 from Summer 2014. Try and keep up. I know it's hard for you, but at least try. Trolling some more Lephys? And I did address what he said. He's making stuff up like you are and has no idea what he's talking about - much like you with your trolling right from your first post in this thread. So how many people have said the OP is not a troll? There was my post. There's Fiebras with his post but you ignored that with your troll post two posts later. Then there's Sensuki with his post. And we also have Gorbag with his post. But you still want to continue with the OP being a troll. Well as I said before, the trolls in this thread are you, Caladian and DCParry who accused the OP for being a troll and posting their troll posts like you have.

I like the portraits on the side showing different things like health and recovery time, but I don't like things popping out from the side and taking up 1/3 of the screen. But as Sensuki said, the U.I. design is done and dusted and Obsidian isn't changing it.

I can keep track of what I wrote. The fact is you're jumped into a thread and have no idea what you were talking about. AND YOU STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU"RE TALKING ABOUT. Also, I wasn't referring to RPS. And RPS is 2 months late (article is dated 12th Feb 2014) with that News about the Winter 2014 release. The Winter 2014 release was on the Backer Portal in December 2013 when the backer portal went up. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU QUOTING AN ARTICLE TWO MONTHS AFTER WE KNEW ABOUT THIS IN DEC 2013???? So yes, HOW ABOUT YOU DO SOME READING and SOME PROPER RESEARCH. YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING! And I did read Lephys' posts and I did read yours. Lephys is in denial and you have no idea what you're talking about. How about learn to read, because you have NFI, let alone comprehension skills. And if you're complaining about us taking up half the freaking thread, then put both of us on IGNORE noob. What you're done is now jumped in and joined our argument. You're contributing to the thing you're complaining about and taking up the thread as well. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. And I never asked Lephys to apologise to me. My God are you that THICK? Where did I ask for an apology? You're as bad as Lephys with making stuff up. So next time you jump into a thread, learn to do some reading. Learn some basic comprehension skills. You're the idiot for posting your rant and then trying to deflect this onto me for your own incompetent failure to understand what this is all about. Looks like I'll have to add you to the list of trolls I've been whacking in this thread.

D&D made Clerics OP? Really? Well fancy that. I do declare we have Captain Obvious in our midst. To some people, they're just healing bots to leave on the back line to throw a healing spell every now and then. So you're suggesting D&D clerics are more OP than the ones in PoE and PoE is doing it right with spreading abilities to other classes? How are they OP in the IE games? Did you have a Cleric on the front line?

I've been following Cleve's thread.

What the hell are you ranting about? And if you don't see the point of the two of us arguing, why jump in the thread in the first place and join in with the argument? I can never understand randoms jumping into threads complaining about two people arguing and then joining the argument. FAIL. Also, the OP hasn't said he got the information from Matt Chat. Where the hell did you get that from? Go and do some reading before ranting like a fool. Better yet.

Looks at people responding in thread. hmmm.. Goes over to the Codex. I see.

Regardless. It would be better to go through support so there's an official request and ticket on file with Obsidian. Proper channels and all that.

It might be best to contact Support. Go to Backer Portal > My Account > Support Clicking on the Support Button and then New Request states: If you have any questions or concerns about your pledges or account, please enter them below. Try to include as much information as possible to help us with your donation/purchase. Please note: This service is only intended for customer support issues relating to your pledges, purchases, and fulfilment. That would be the best route to take.

Combat is easier in the IE games. While reading some other forums with the problems of combat in this game, I came across a post that I fully agree with. To paraphrase another persons post from another forum: In the IE games, you micromanaged your casters while your fighters could hold their own and do their own thing in melee. Now every character in your party has powers and special abilities and you have to micromanaged all your characters in your party. And this becomes a pause spam fest. Because you have to select your Fighters abilities, your Paladins abilities, your Rogue's abilities and then go back to your casters and select their abilities. You're constantly going back to your melee characters every 2 seconds which you didn't have to do in the IE games. This would be great in a TB game, but it's making this game a pause spam fest. Sensuki pretty summed it up perfectly. I agree the pips over your characters are meaningless when you have your portraits telling you how much endurance/health you have. I'd also prefer the option to have the pips over the enemies taken off as well, and mouse over the enemies with their health status like it did in the IE games. I also agree the dialogue box should be on the left. However, Powers should be above the portraits. And other things like animations need to be updated. Recovery time over your characters is just more clutter that needs to go elsewhere.

You can? I didn't know. I'll have to try it.

I'll add my vote to this. Also, I like the idea of being able to select any of the tabs at the top and go straight to that option and change anything. And already mentioned, the defences box should be there from the start.

Considering you admitted you haven't watched the Matt Chat, no need to make up more stuff in saying you might have. As I said, making stuff up doesn't help your argument. It comes across as lying. And no, you aren't right about anything about the release date. Vertical Slice? LOL. Some posts here and there? LMAO. Way off base. Keep clutching at straws. You have no idea and it shows. keeping living in denial. Yeah I've watched many movies and know how it ends too. So what's your point? You have none. But you do acknowledge the OP is right with the 'little known fact' that the release was going to be before December? You do acknowledge the OP is right with trying to avoid releasing the game at the same time as DA:I? Do you acknowledge these facts and the OP is right? And stop trying to weasel your way around this with your slimy debating style. The OP was right about these things. As far as being a politican, I don't make things up and lie. That would be your domain. Keep living in denial, making things up, continue that slimy debating style and lying like a politician. And just to be clear. I'm not having a go at Obsidian in any way. I'm calling out those trolls who jumped into this thread throwing insults at the OP. And even Fiebras pointed out the OP is not a troll, despite you coming in two posts later to troll this thread.

hahaha. Just as I suspected. Haven't watched the Matt Chat and talking out of your arse again. Also, the release date was listed as "Summer" when the kickstarted ended???? LMAO. Where did you pull that from??? Because the release date was NOT listed as Summer when the Kickstarter ended. And it wasn't re-evaluated after all the funds and stretch goals were in when the Kickstarter ended from a Summer to Winter release in 2012. It was never mentioned as a Summer release in 2012 at all. Another thing you've pulled from the air. Keep making that stuff up. And you are in denial. Even going as far as making up stuff. And you haven't accepted the OPs claim that PoE originally had a planned earlier release date. Specifically a Summer 2014 release not when the Kickstarted ended (that you claim which is entirely false and made up) but nearly a year into development after the Kickstarter ended, when it was mentioned last year in 2013 by a dev. So what we have here folks is Lephys admitting he hasn't watched the Matt Chat, making up stuff about a Summer release date when the Kickstarter ended in 2012, when the money and stretch goals were in, which is false. And then dodging and weaving by bringing up irrelevant stuff like CoD? LOL. Keep living in denial. It doesn't help your argument when you make stuff up Lephys. It makes it worse.