Elerond
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1 hour ago, Hurlsnot said:
The simple memorization is still an option (unless you have a bad math teacher.) But the focus is on developing complex critical thinking skills that can apply to a wide spectrum of problems instead of just memorizing 9x8=72. I do the same thing in Social Science. I don't care if you can memorize names and dates. I want you to be able to recognize trends and analyze cause and effect.
I mean we all have calculators and phones with the entirety of human knowledge in our possession. We don't need to be able to remember basic trivia, we need to be able to think critically.
But I digress.
edit: I'm also only referring to elementary level math. I have no idea what is happening at the High School level.
Which is reason why classes that teach critical thinking are now more important than ever, because if you aren't able to real knowledge from falsehoods that pool of knowledge in your hand does little to help you, but instead leads you to hazardous waters of false information that has high likely hood cause damage to you and people around you.
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5 hours ago, BruceVC said:
Now that would be a disaster but I dont think Disney can afford to buy Microsoft even if they wanted to sell which they dont
Yeah that is true, Disney can't afford MS, but MS has cash on hand half of Disney's market value, so MS could actually buy Disney if it they want and Disney is on sale
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7 hours ago, BruceVC said:
https://www.thefashionlaw.com/lego-name-in-copyright-lawsuit-over-leather-jacket-design/
Gorthfuscious I am shocked and disappointed by this latest criminality committed by Denmark, I cannot believe you Nordic people are so dismissive of IP and copyright laws? I dont know what is worse, this callous infringement or the massive NZ KFC chicken smuggling syndicate that was exposed ? ( @Zoraptor I didnt notice you acknowledging this moral decay in your country ? )
An example of artist trying to market themselves and cash in by using design flaws in copyright system.
Like how they registered their copyright two months after LEGO published their set
Argument is that LEGO copied their arrangement of the elements as art in elements itself are different from the original piece and you can't copyright jackets.
Arrangement of elements claim is mainly based on feeling to see art on jacket (which can't be copyrighted) as LEGO has added some elements in it and removed other elements.
Feeling based claim get boost from that LEGO's set is official Netflix Queer Eye product and as the jacket was used in the show the set clearly tries to imitate spirit of the jacket and therefore spirit of the art in the jacket.
Interestingly artist has not sued actually breakers of his copyright Netflix and Queer Eye, which used jacket without getting permission from the artist. Although artist gifted the jacket to member of Queer Eye in hopes that it will used in the show, which gives implied permission to use it in the show, but as this LEGO set is marketing for the show implied permission to use the art becomes more muddy. And it seem that they have used in Queer Eye multiple pieces from this artist and this jacket was only one which they have not got license to use art in the marketing of the show.
But in the of day it looks like one of those copyright cases were person sues big company in hopes to get settlement, because copyright court cases are long and expensive.
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2 hours ago, rjshae said:
Statistics can be manipulated. Do you have a source for this?
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/malnutrition/by-country/
It seem that I looked wrong line for Venezuela. Correct one is 1.97 per 100k.
They use WHO's numbers, which of course can be wrong but I have not seen better ones
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40 minutes ago, rjshae said:
Yep, you get guaranteed health care while you're starving to death. Lucky you.
~2966 people die per year because of malnutrition in USA every year (0.9/100k people)
~540 people die per year because of malnutrition in Venezuela every year (1.9/100k people )
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7 minutes ago, rjshae said:
UN to provide food to Venezuela children amid crisis
Food shortages in a socialist government-managed economy? Hmm, where have I heard that before... oh yes, in virtually every other socialist government-managed economy we've seen in the last century. This failure is as predictable as the Sun rising in the east.
It is bit double edged sword thing, as almost all the countries where there has been socialist goverment-managed economy have had socialist revolution because majority of people there didn't have money or food and no prospect for better life which lead them to support socialist revolutionist who promised them better life.
So they were already countries which economy was failing, but it is true that socialists who have taken over those countries don't have good track record when it comes to fix their countries failed economies. Usually their policies have lead their countries to worse than they were before revolution, but often they have suffered from trade sanctions from the world riches countries for various reasons.
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21 minutes ago, BruceVC said:
Im not sure whataboutism is helpful now? We talking about Russia and its soldiers being deployed to Kazakhstan arent we ?
But BruceVC they are fighting against local Kazakhstan equivalent of BLM movement
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3 hours ago, Gfted1 said:
Yeah thats always the excuse. Thats why non-lethal methods would be so efficient here...the first window that gets smashed...RELEASE THE GAS DRONES!
I think the Europeans consider it "war crime" or some nonsense so theyre doomed to take the beatings and bitings.
Ooooooooh, I just remembered the good ole water cannons too! A million years ago I was at a "protest" in Berkley CA and some clowns flipped over a police cruiser. A few minutes later the authorities deployed the water cannon and blasted them off the street. Lol it was so goddamn funny to see people getting nailed by a high pressure water stream. 
Using pepper pray against people is only war crime in war, when police uses it against civilians it is okay
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14 hours ago, Gfted1 said:
Oooooooh, the European posters are still harking back to the original hand signal. I should have figured that out (a fascist behind every bush?)
We used to just place our right hand over our heart.
It is communists that people fear
Like for example Germany's Strafgesetzbuch section 86a which prohibit public showing of Nazi symbols was adopted during Cold War to block communists parties in West Germany as side effect it also bans Nazi symbols.
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13 hours ago, majestic said:
Being an anti-vaxxer is the only thing that makes Nazis, Johova's Witnesses and left-leaning esoteric progressives find common ground. These times make for strange bedfellows, huh?
Could also argue that feeding your children only vegan food is potentially more dangerous than not vaccinating them. It's not impossible, but it could easily go sideways. Has, already, actually, with deaths in Italy and Belgium that I know of.
For someone claiming to be so in tune with nature it's pretty weird to deny that humans are not naturally herbivorous. Vitamin B12 is a thing, even for mostly herbivorous species like sunbirds. Fun fact, they do eat the insects that drop into the nectar they consume. Guess for what? Yeah. B12 supply. 's... a thing. Deny it all your want, just don't kill your kids or your cats.
There's vegans who give their cats vegan food. I don't even...
In vegan diet problem is often that people that go full vegan also go full organic, which means that they need to have good knowledge of sources of different vitamins and dietary minerals and make their meals versatile in order not have any deficiencies. In organic mixed/meat diets there is often same problems that you are missing some vitamins (like A, C and D vitamins especially during winter in areas where sun only is up couple hours) and dietary minerals like iodine and calcium.
As people have accustomed that they don't need make their meals very versatile because of all added vitamins and minerals in typical products that you can by from store, which is people have more often problem with excess of things than deficiencies in their diets.
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4 minutes ago, BruceVC said:
Elerond did you ever think a day would come when our Constitutions would mean our governments cant implement the necessary policies to reduce deaths and hospitalizations ....a pity and I never would have guessed this would happen. But its only during certain very rare global problems like this pandemic that we see this problem
So I am not saying any Constitution is bad, I support all Constitutional Democracies as the best systems of government in the history of mankind. But this is a problem where citizens can legally ignore medical advice that saves lives and reduces the spread of the virus
It was surprise, because we added infectious disease section in the constitution after swine flu in 2009, to give government tools to react quickly to pandemics, but we found out that it had lots of design problems when it come to restrict people's right to travel and gather and business right to do their business. Government had to use quite lot emergency powers meant to for war times, which our parliament felt were governmental overreach, which is why enabling restrictions using them took quite long time and no proactive measures could be used.
We also found that competition laws prevented government giving direct assistance to companies, so government had to use development funds to support businesses impacted by covid measures, which meant that businesses had to come up with some sort development plan for their business in order to get assistance.
I hope that during next pandemic we have bit more flexible laws that allow to do proactive measures against the disease instead of waiting that situation gets worse enough to allow usage of emergency laws
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1 hour ago, BruceVC said:
Okay fair enough, its not as serious as I first thought so then their is no need to prosecute her
But Elerond I am more worried that many people in Finland dont seem to understand that during a wave or when their is a variant you dont go to clubs and large social events....everyone should know that by now?
Do you guys just have guidance and not actual enforcement of these types of pandemic laws that are only applicable during a wave ....like now ?
During this pandemic we have learned that Finland's constitution makes all sort enforcement difficult even if they are meant to protect people from pandemic.
Because of business reasons clubs, large social events etc. can disregard all restrictions and guidance if they check that their customers have covid passport to show that they are fully vaccinated or have negative test result from last 72 hours
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20 hours ago, BruceVC said:
Elerond Im very disappointed with your PM going to a club during this pandemic, what are you guys going to do about her recalcitrant behavior ...is she going to get arrested?
She is hot but I dont think beauty should be an excuse to flout virus regulations ?
She didn't break any virus/health regulations. Reason why her actions caused issue was that she left her official phone for office of prime minister home and only had her official phone as member of parliament with her, which is why she missed text message that informed her that our foreign minister has tested positive to covid and guidance from cabinet secretary that she should avoid contacts with people until she has had covid test which is more cautious than official regulations which say that people who have had two jabs of vaccine don't need to avoid contacts with other people. As prime minister needs be available in any time, her leaving her official phone home is used as way to criticize her, even though she didn't break law as she had her second official phone and bodyguards with her and therefore would have been available during emergency, as leaving the phone home caused her to miss important message.
More worrisome thing is that we had two other minister who were guided to avoid contact with people after they were informed about foreign ministers positive covid test, but they disregarded that guidance and went in public gatherings with hundreds of people (where prime minister was spending time with her husband and their friendly couple, although in club so there would have still some possibility that she could have infected other people had she had the virus. Although there is restriction that clubs can only allow people who have covid pass in, so everyone in the club would have had two jabs of vaccine)
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57 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:
Thats interesting. I was just reading What Causes Inflation and Who Profits From It? and it seems inflation is variable due to several reasons (the Federal Reserve tries to keep it around 2%). So using you as an example, how do you negotiate a raise? Is it performed annually? Otherwise it would be impossible to predict the inflation in SA over a 5 year contract?
Union contract that my company uses, has clause that salaries need to be checked yearly and there needs to be 1.2% increase in purchasing power. So yearly salary increase is estimated inflation plus 1.2%.
Inflation estimate is done by economists from worker union and employer union together.
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4 hours ago, BruceVC said:
I thought this already happened years ago with all the free coffee at your work or old work ?
Isn't workplace where workers don't get free coffee a paradox, as there can't be work place if no one works there?
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1 hour ago, BruceVC said:
Thanks, so how should this be taught schools?
same way as you tech other subjects about culture and human behavior like history, psychology, social psychology, religion and philosophy.
You teach what people have written about subject, you teach support and criticism those people have got and let students come up with understanding with subject and make their own conclusion with what you have taught them.
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47 minutes ago, BruceVC said:
I have yet to find one accurate example of what CRT is supposed to be about, thats another issue with it apart from the general theme that it is revisionist, biased and inaccurate. Try to find one school syllabus that has it as a subject and at least we can understand it
But its not fear mongering to be concerned about it because their are people on the left who push it and their are whole websites dedicated to it
Roy L. Brooks defined critical race theory in 1994 as "a collection of critical stances against the existing legal order from a race-based point of view". More specifically, race is a social construct and racism is neither an individual bias nor prejudice, but rather embedded in the legal system and supplemented with policies and procedures.
Richard Delgado, a co-founder of the theory, defined it in 2017 as "a collection of activists and scholars interested in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power".
It is meant to be high concept for anthropological studies about legal system from perspective of its different impacts to different races
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3 hours ago, BruceVC said:
Also it doesnt matter if civilians are killed by the US and its allies by a mistaken target or a legitimate target but with civilians in the vicinity the response will always be the same by the Zora\Comrade brigade. " Outrage and disgust " because ostensibly innocents die and this bothers them
But other countries can kill innocents in the ME and you wont hear anything from most of the world when it comes to outrage . Russia bombed the city of Aleppo to the ground in Syria to help Assad win the war, thousands of Syrian civilians died , hospitals were directly targeted due to the Russian intervention and Putin doesnt even bother to justify it and it wasnt a mistake unlike this tragedy. So yes the inconsistency with how certain people respond to events when Western countries are involved in collateral damage is nothing new
You want to see something truly jarring, take a look at these images from Aleppo during the Russian intervention
https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2016/oct/11/destruction-in-aleppo-in-pictures
There are trade, economic and political sanctions against Russia because of its actions, where non-exist towards USA or its allies
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2 hours ago, BruceVC said:
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/07/04/deaths-hospital-vaccinated-uk.html
@Zoraptor and others that understand much about this virus
What do you make of this link, basically someone sent it to me based on a view that " vaccinations lead to more deaths or an equal number of deaths ". I dont understand if its true based on what the article is saying?
That writer of that article has clear agenda.
As vaccination prioritization was that oldest and those who belong risks groups were first to be vaccinated and those who have lowest risk from the disease get vaccination in last. So people who had received two dozes of vaccination in June 14 had higher risk to die to covid than most of those who were unvaccinated. Death rate among this group before vaccination was in England from 1.9% to 24%, from which it is dropped to 0.6%. Death rate among non-risk groups were from 0.0001% to 0.066%. So among risk groups death rate has dropped massively and death rate of unvaccinated people is higher than what death rate was during worst times of pandemic among non-risk groups.
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7 hours ago, Skarpen said:
So basically you absolve the pro-choice side of taking care of those things? As pro-choice scream hypocrisy on the other side they don't seem see their own when they use this argument only against pro-life and not actually care about those either.
I didn't say anything about pro-choice.
But they are ones who support personal freedom and that matter is personal. So hypocrisy in this issue is almost totally on 'pro-life' side
Also pro-choice politicians seem to mostly support improving social benefits, making schooling free, free health care, parental leaves, preventing firing pregnant people. Where pro-life politicians are mostly against these things.
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Actual pro-life movement would actually build social benefits that would ensure that there is no people in poverty and that any child born would have decent place to live, access to good schooling and they don't cause unbearable burden to their parents.
Making things illegal don't remove reason why people are seeking abortions
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1 hour ago, teknoman2 said:
the simple fact is that the media are corporations and corporations have interests and agendas and political affiliations. so if they can spin a story in a way that promotes their point of view they will do it.
46% of hospital doctors here are against mandatory vaccination if you hear one news report and in another they say that its just a 1% of conspiracists. meanwhile in a tv channel, a representative of the doctor's union said that all hospitals are currently severely understaffed because unvaccinated doctors were suspended and in a different channel a government representative said that the healthcare system is ready to deal with the 4th covid wave. when you have so much conflicting information, someone's have to be lying
there are some corporations among media, but big sunk of media aren't corporations
0.5% of hospital doctors are against mandatory vaccinations here, so that percentage probably is misinformation based on inaccurate survey
EDIT: Also less than 1% of doctors specialize field where they get more than basic information about vaccinations so your average doctor usually doesn't know that much about vaccines or how they actually work, which surveys about vaccines that target whole medical doctorate are more than bit questionable as policy guideline
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Just now, Gfted1 said:
Oh, were just theory crafting? It is my understanding that Plan B is considered a pregnancy preventer, not aborter. So do you think TX will also include other birth control methods such as condoms, "the pill", IUD, etc.?
It is, but that does not prevent anti-abortion people claiming that it is abortifacient
here an example
https://lozierinstitute.org/plan-b-abortifacient-and-other-risks/
Prescribing information for Plan B points out that the drug works by “preventing ovulation” or “possibly preventing fertilization.” Or it may alter the endometrium and thereby “inhibit implantation.”[1] This refers to implantation of any newly conceived human individual/zygote in the mother’s womb. Hence, the complete clinical pharmacology of Plan B demands that the drug product be duly recognized as an abortifacient – or potential abortifacient – and not merely described as “emergency contraception.”
and here another
3. It is clear, therefore, that the proven "anti-implantation" action of the morning-after pill is really nothing other than a chemically induced abortion. It is neither intellectually consistent nor scientifically justifiable to say that we are not dealing with the same thing.
Science does not matter in these questions and laws implemented to ensure that their ideology is heeded
Ooooooooh, I just remembered the good ole water cannons too! A million years ago I was at a "protest" in Berkley CA and some clowns flipped over a police cruiser. A few minutes later the authorities deployed the water cannon and blasted them off the street. Lol it was so goddamn funny to see people getting nailed by a high pressure water stream. 
We used to just place our right hand over our heart. 
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Trump's and Biden's actions have almost ensured that Finland will not join in NATO in next 10 years.
As only 25% of Finnish people support joining Nato, as it is seen increasing problems with Russia and bringing only hollow promises of help in case of invasion. Majority of members of Finland's parliament have supported joining Nato from 1995, but support for Nato among voters has not increased in past decade much.
Finland and Sweden are members of EU and its defensive pacts so it is quite open that we are not neutral, which we say in every time it is asked. In case of Nato vs Russia, Finland has military co-operation agreements with both, Sweden has only with Nato, neither has defensive pacts either Nato or Russia. Concept Finland and Sweden being neutral come from Cold War, when we didn't join either NATO or Warsaw Pact and had trade and diplomatic relationships with members of both alliances.