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it doesn't mean that off-topic is a drain or a problem either.

In no particular order, the hardest thing I'll do all week: Bubble Bobble Super Tecmo Bowl Life Force Contra Metal Gear Castlevania 2: Simons Quest Legend of Zelda Legend of Zelda: The Adventures of Link I know I'm forgetting something and will kick myself later. My three, cheating, honorable meantions: Metroid Paper Boy Super Mario 3

The question you gotta ask yourself is this: can terrorists fight their opponents in any other way other than terrorism? Can they declare, in a military sense, "war"? I'm of the mind that people generally don't engage in SUICIDE bombings if they could achieve their objects through some other method, such as winning battles and being respected as war heroes. Suicide bombings is one thing. Bombing a disco full of 18 year old kids is something else. Thats the difference I'm keying on. So yes, you prolly could fight a "war" of gurellia strikes against soft military targets, but it is clearly not the "easy" road. Getting some kid to blow him-self up to kill other kids gets more attention with less man and material losses to your side. It's more cost effective, if you will. Tho I'm not sure if the motivations of the "terrorists" play into what the definition of terrorism is, nessasarily. Tho I'm still think about that.

but Off topic isn't, and has not been, the source of the drain. K2 forums have been. I think thats pretty clear.

Evil monkey? No one said anything about no stinking evil monkey! hmmm, maybe. I assume we are talking buck here. Not a small animal. One good kick or stomp and that fights over. But lets not go there, it's off topic Weigh in, I know you want too.

I feel you are overlapping guerilla tactics and terrorist tactics, which arn't nessasarily the same thing. Vietcong wern't, tho some "terrorist" tactics might have been used, by and large "terrorists" but would you say there is a difference between when those tactics are occasionally used and when they are the backbone of your entire effort?

uh, i never said it wasn't. fear is the goal. it is a benefit in and of itself simply because it is the means by which terrorist organizations survive. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd argue, at least in recent times, they survive by hate. I don't think they intimidate their members or their supporters so much as tell them what they want to hear (what they end up hearing is based on hate). Your comparing them to a cult seems pretty apt. but I don't think the insurgence in Iraq is trying to instill fear, at least, not as it's primary purpose. Sure, they have used it as a weapon, but I think they are more trying to break the will of the US and the Iraqi people outright. Not that it was terrorism, but America wasn't afraid of the Vietcong nessasarily, but the Vietcong still ended up disheartening them. I think a similar thing is going on now. Terror has evolved form bullying to, do what we say, or we kill someone else. Much like, as i said, Dog Day Afternoon

sort, but in modern terrorism, fear is almost a benifit for the "terrorists" as I see it. it's more like the movie Dog Day Afternoon. The goal is just to publically kill as many innocent people, women and children included, as you can till you take the fight out of the other side. Not through fear nessasarily, but almost via sorrow. Does it? I think there has to be a line where "winning" isn't quite the same thing anymore.

For an initial plan, I'd use my reach (specifically kicking) to keep the chimp away from the body for as long as possible whileinflicting damage on it. ....I'm devolping a battle plan for a chimp

Not you. I was talking about the other guys response to your post.

right, tho I said "average male". It would seem the chimps out weigh most human females and apparently are prolly much stronger physically. also, for the record, are we now moving the fight to a sealed & empty room? Or do I still have the ability to grab a stick or rock or such.

....... 1. lets not abuse the report button 2. that was a bit of an over reaction 3. I'm still taking the damn chimp down

Ok, Ken Shamrock would own me in about 5 seconds. Just like you claimed Vols arguements (tho I disagree) don't apply, either does this one, or only in the barest of terms. that being said, your quite and vol are a bit.....agressive on a otherwise light hearted thread or uprooting trees to use as clubs or throwing their natural predators 50 yards.....

It's not the mods call nessasarily, hence why I'm trying to plead my case to the man who makes the call. Also, post your thoughts here rather than PMing, as I would think it would serve everyone better to get your thoughts into the open.

That is essentially my point. It's so subjective as to almost be meaningless. But if I asked someone what a terrorist was, to break it down to it's core (not name names), I think you would get basically variations on the same answer. Hence, in our modern understanding of the word, I think you can be more specific and add the "with little or no concern about who that violence effects" to "Systematic use of violence, with little or no concern about who that violence effects, to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective". I think this better reflects what the majority of people would think the word actually means. Not that I'm for changing the meaning of words on a majority vote, but in this case it seems apt. It also draws a better line between acts of war and terrorism.

The dictionary defines it as: Britannica goes a step further: A post that said "Americans are terrorists" (the way it was supposed to be taken aside) got me thinking about the meaning of the word terrorism again. Britannica lists some moments of time that are famous for their "terrorism":

lost new this week?

see, thats exactly what I'm thinking.

ahhh, anyways, the jenga was nifty

yes, alot of it is just good ole' fashioned Anti-American stuff

Ooooops, shouldn't have skimmed the article, i thought: meant it was one of those virtual reality or thought reading things. Like the bowling game you control just by thinking. but, heres my questions, how does that program (tho neat as it was) show in anyway what they are talking about with their new chip (hardware) they say themselves:

might be splitting hairs here, but maybe we can get a single NWN2 forum for all disscussion about the game that happens here too.

awwwww, come on, howabout some new material huh? :cool:

Well I tell you this, the Bush "hippy" sig ain't helping you out besides, we're not anti-republican, were pro-truth (but yea, you are fighting an steep uphill battle, I think largely due to the large non-American population in these forums)

They have been talkign about stuff like this for years. I'm sure it will happen, kinda like hybrid cars did after years of talk, but the question is when.