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She didn't say that in any way. I stand corrected. She said half of Trump's supporters were in a basket of deplorables. Not that that is an improvement. But hey, at least she only insulted 25% of Americans. Obama insulted us all last week. I'd say that 25% of Americans being xenophobes is a fairly conservative estimate. Not that the statistics are any different for other nationalities, though. So the problem with her statement is not that it is untrue but rather that it is offensive. I wonder why Trump and his supporters, of all people, are complainingt. Aren't they on the side of the straight talkers who tell it like it is?

She didn't say that in any way.

It's not like this is going to make much of a difference. The RepDem field is already the best it has ever been for third party candidates, and Johnson can't get past 10 percent. By the same measure that says Clinton should be crushing Trump, Johnson should be polling well above expectation. If 10% is already well above expectation, than his campaign is effectively dead in the water. The two party system is unavoidable.

http://25logicalreasonstovotefordonaldtrump.com/ As you can see there are valuable arguments to be made in favour of Trump.

Before suddenly deciding to run for the Republican nomination, Trump was a huge fan of the Clintons. There are quite a few videos online of him saying how they're awesome. Politicians and millionaires are all first and foremost on the side of money.

Actually, I'm the one with real power around here so the thread is now locked. You can continue talking about fake elections here, though.

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We as in the people reading the forum. Not sure what the family remark is about but oh well. We are family Get up everybody and sing I don't think you'll like my taste in music, but ok. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_tGab-t0g Lyrics are spoiled You just love to ruin song lyrics for everyone, don't you? Next time keep them in the fridge.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh/0025da4a-e0c2-4854-9da6-083ee801b2a2/8f70688d584c1ae5 This is horribly racist and it wasn't altered.

I don't get that cartoon. Isn't she surrounded by actual racists?

And it wasn't actually "ATARI", but rather Infogrames which was once a great, classic developer.

Yep, there were NWN2 forums here during development. Ferret, MCA and Feargus were occasional posters, then.

The two alternative candidates also advocate widely unacceptable policies, I think. Johnson promised to literally end the IRS. I'm not too clear on Stein's campaign, but at the very least, she appears scarily non committal towards stuff life vaccines or GMOs. She seems to represent the bad science side of the left in the US.

Clearly overstating his (potential) impact on the race. Probably. But as we were discussing before, there are other prizes to be had in the race than the White House. A trip to the debates, a strong showing on election day (say 5-7%) and a concerted effort to run congressional candidates in 2018 sets things up nicely for 2020. Assuming a suitable candidate can be found. I don't think Johnson will run again and I don't think they will have Weld without him. As long as the electoral system isn't reformed there is no way a third party becomes a viable option in the US, unfortunately.

Johnson wants to end the IRS.

What he's hiding is one of two things, or probably both. That he's using creative methods to pay less taxes and that he isn't half as rich as he states. Mostly, it's about his own public image, which is, far and away, what he values the most. By the way, did you see the recent one, where Trump was asked what his dad would think about His running for president? He replied, I kid you not, that he was sure his dad would allow it. Talk about daddy issues.

Can you understand 5-4 Conservative majority vs. 5-4 Liberal majority? That still doesn't mean in any way that the second amendment is under attack.

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Continue to discuss the myriad ways in which Trump is trying to drive his campaign into the ground, here.

I'm not aware of the American car industry's attempts at destroying public transportation. I mean that literally: I am ignorant of the subject. Do you have any links so I can see how that came to be? Public transportation over such a ridiculously large landmass was always going to be a struggle...so I'm curious as to how it was deliberately made worse. What I've read before was that GM bought up public transportation companies in California(in LA, I think) so that they could dismantle them. Looking for it now on Google gave me a wikipedia link that states it's mostly conspiracy theory and/or exaggeration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gm-trolley-conspiracy-what-really-happened/ http://moderntransit.org/ctc/ctc06.html

That's America for you, where the car industry did their best and succeeded to wreck public transportation. The wondrous invisible hand of the free market at work.

I understand that, but tit still doesn't mean that a person can do things within their private property that demonstrably endanger other people around them. Of course, whether eating a muffin while driving is a dangerous activity is certainly a contentious question. And obviously, I don't really see how the hell do you even manage to enforce such a law, but what do I know. I certainly think that if someone drives down a busy highway at 88 mph, while holding a paper cup of scalding coffee with only his teeth, that person should be liable for some sort of prosecution. Reckless endangerment or whatever.

Those questions are valid and I think at least that part of the law should be looked at, at least. Enforcement seems like the biggest issue to me. They do not, however, have anything to do with the whole "encroaching my liberties" argument. By the way, I've seen claims that about anything you usually do while driving a car has a large negative impact on the driving. Even stuff like talking on a hands off phone, to people next to you, eating, listen to the radio. In my experience, driving with two bellicose small children sitting in the back of the car, for example, is a recipe for catastrophe.