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Ascension! Health insurance was the ongoing discussion in the last posts of the previous thread.

Isn't Obamacare increasing premiums for some income brackets because insurers are trying hard to get back to the previous status quo where they could screw over the insured with more ease?

We are not a democracy. We are a representative republic. And the electoral college, while it is a throwback to a time when it took days to get from one side of the country to the other it still serves a purpose today. Without it New York, California, Texas, Florida, and Pennsylvania could decide the election by themselves. States like North Dakota, Wyoming, Alaska and the other low population states would be left out of Presidential politics altogether. Their concerns will be ignored forever. On a practical level it would require one of two things. A Constitutional Amendment. That probably will not happen. Or a Constitutional Convention. I seriously doubt the country would even survive that. So we are stuck with it. @Shady I'm not so sure that's true. There is still a scenario where Johnson can win this thing. And it only happens BECAUSE of the Electoral College. Thanks for stating it clearly, but I understand that perfectly and that's exactly my point. The country of "don't tread on me", personal freedoms and the government is not to be trusted puts states rights above individual rights. And by the way, those states still end up controlling Presidential election outcomes.

I really have trouble understanding how all Americans seem to be proud of saying that the US is the "greatest democracy in the world", but conversely don't seem to have a problem with the electoral college. It's such a clear cut undemocratic mechanism.

Where's the Swede?

Trump isn't deemed a racist because he's the Republican candidate. It's the other way around. He was already racist and he won the primary partly because of that.

What will the reality denier say about reality? Whatever he wants.

http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/ Did everyone suddenly forget who Trump is?

The definitive Clinton biography: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/10/14/the-hideous-diabolical-truth-about-hillary-clinton/?utm_term=.ba7f62307da5

I merged all the topics that seemed to be about the same game freezing issue.

30 million? Wot? Are they going to snatch people from Mexico illegally to make up the illegal immigrant numbers?

That's actually my biggest problem with the current election, the nomination of Trump by the GOP has served as a gigantic distraction from the real issue which is that the big players in the financial market are still doing the same things that led to the latest mess. All the talk of immigration, refugees, emails and the Trumpiness itself, permitted Clinton to not have to focus on the biggest issue of the time which is that the government dropped the ball in terms of getting the big banks under control. This is what you get when the opposition over the past 8 years is a mélange of idiot populism, nativism, racism and shouting Benghazi at regular intervals.

Perhaps he can also explain how the lack of regulations was responsible for both the crash of 1929 and the crash of 2008. And how an improvement of regulatory oversight through the New Deal saved the US from depression. Hurlie is a history teacher, I think.

Explain to them how Libertarian economic policy is based on deregulation inspired by philosophical dogma instead of actual evidence and everyone should quickly jump to the libertarian camp.

The polls still don't factor fully the tape revelation and the debate probably won't be good in the polls for Trump. As I understand it the press conference he did with the Bill Clinton victims went down like a rock with women, which is the demographic that's screwing him over in the polls right now. That being said I don't think Electoral college results from polling will get worse than what they currently are for Trump. At worst Arizona will flip to Clinton, but that's more or less meaningless at this point. Clinton is already sweeping practically all swing states. Anyway, what's interesting now is how all the current GOP brouhaha will affect the Senate and the House. In particular, if the GOP lost the House it would be a party ending upset of apocalyptic proportions.

The LA Times national poll uses a specific model that favours Republicans. It's more valuable to pay attention to the trend instead of heeding the specific numbers. The trend for Trump, even in that poll, is negative.

I saw the pics on Facebook. At least you are ok.

Things are so bad on the Republican side that they are even talking about ensuring that they protect Congress from Trump fallout. I don't see how, but If the Democrats manage to get control of Congress the GOP will be close to dying.

Did Trump answer any questions besides the last one? He deflected the sexual assault question onto ISIS.

The rats are abandoning the ship? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15MudzswjU45efqvus21goEqtknbsfy9w2CLaWvOa_z0/htmlview?sle=true

Yeah, you're right. Sorry about that. It's still terrible, though. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/11/21/7-charts-that-explain-the-undocumented-immigrant-population/ The majority of illegal immigrants have been in the US for over 10 years, which means they are more than settled and a significant percentage have progeny that was born in the US.

First, they are not charges, they are recorded fact. Second and more important, his supposed policies regarding immigration and foreign policy are stupid and naive at best. At worst his proposed policies are racist and dangerous to America and the world at large. Build a wall and deport all Muslims come to mind. Trump never suggested deporting all muslims (or any muslims), and a wall hardly sounds dangerous to the world. http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/05/vice-presidential-debate-mike-pence-v-donald-trump-origwx-allee.cnn Enjoy.

Other than the whole naive, kumbaya feel of the quote, what's wrong with it? Sounds like something Sanders and Stein supporters would get behind of.

First, they are not charges, they are recorded fact. Second and more important, his supposed policies regarding immigration and foreign policy are stupid and naive at best. At worst his proposed policies are racist and dangerous to America and the world at large. Build a wall and deport all Muslims come to mind. And there's the massively low bar. Trump did something my 9 year old learned to do 2 years ago. So impressive.