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I would like for Obsidian bow out and hand the rights back over to Gas Powered Games. Honestly, while DS3 wasnt completely horrible, it was scarcely a Dungeon Siege game. It needs to be more simplistic like the original DS games DS1 and DS2. They also need to bring back the original levelling system, and armor, weapons, spells, etc... should have larger variety. Finally it should be alot freindlier for the PC considering the first two were written for the PC.

Yeah, while this was my least favorite of all the Dungeon Siege games, I have to say I dont recall any major bugs. The camera, yes it totally sucked, but I have played worse games with worse camera angles.

Yep its official alright, that is to say I am officially calling bull**** on the very idea that DS3 is better than Diablo 3. Look, DS3 wasnt a bad game, I even played it all the way through despit the complete lack of connection between it and the 2 previous games. The problem with DS3 is it abandoned nearly every thing that made the dungeon siege franchise so enjoyable to begin with, and turned it into little more than an arcade romp. Granted the graphics were good, as well as the animations and etc. but you can't really say that DS3 is better than Diablo 3 because you are comparing a finished product to an unfinished product. Not to mention that Blizzard has never made a bad game. I'm sorry, I gotta call bull****.

Games that Blow DS3 away Diablo 1 and 2 Baldours Gate Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 Sacred 1 and 2 Titan Quest Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 Torchlight Fate Mass Effect 1 and 2 Knights of the old Republic 1 and 2 Elder Scrolls all of them Kingdom Hearts all of them Gauntlet all of them Fable Pacman Space Invaders Pong Need I say more?

Ok I will present to you a choice. 1) You are ignorant, cynical and spouting the same nonsense that every CLUELESS hater is spouting. 2) You have no idea what you are talking about and forgot the mantra, "Better to be silent and appear stupid, than open mouth and remove all doubt." Throughout THE ENTIRE GAME events and characters of the past are referenced over and over and over again. IN FACT there is an entire level in the game dedicated to those past games... AND a quest called Dungeon Siege. If that is Obsidian's way of going off the beaten path of the old games then I am sure as hell glad they didn't give this game to BioWare. In every possible way, DS3 is better than DA2. In every way. So I can only assume the reason the review scores are so low is that people are snubbing Obsidian and they have their heads up BioWares asses. Obsidian and DS3 are 1000 times better than BioWare (or any other RPG developer right now, and that include SquEnix.. FF13? a joke). Arcade? Seriously? Where are you putting your quarters? Wait.. I dunwannaknow. Yeah, calling DS3 (a dungeon crawling hack n' slash) arcade-like is about as smart as calling any fighting game an arcade game. My goodness did that suck! Wow and I thought you were smarter than that. First off I could give a rip less if they referenced every character, landmark, what the hell ever in the last two games because the second game never referenced any of that crap in the first so dont EVEN pull that crap on me. Secondly, why the hell are you bringing up Bioware and Dragon Age 2? I sure as hell didnt, I dont even own DA or DA2 so ummm.....you go on hating it I dont care. Third I never said "I hate Obsidian". I sure as hell dont like what they did with DS3 mainly because IN MY OPINION it is not a true Dungeon Siege game. There were things specific to Dungeon Siege that I feel were essential to making a good and true Dungeon Siege experience and this game had none of those, so TO ME it blows goat ass! Now as far me being ignorant and clueless, I dont think so. I have been a long time fan of the DS series which originated on the PC and considering I shelled out $50 for the damn game and since I am the one who is not satisfied with it so yeah I'll spout all the hate for it I want. As far as not knowing what I am talking about? Yeah I think I do, considering how many games I have played and all the Dungeon Siege time I have put in you bet your ass I do. And yes I said it, ARCADE! Are you kidding me? You really think this game is some hard hitting in depth RPG? The damn game lasts 12 to 14 hours max. The game play is way to similar to that of Fable or Kingdom Hearts two very ARCADE style games, and yes even Gauntlet (especially the sword of seven sorrows). Obsidian and DS3 1000 times better than Bioware and any other RPG developer? I am shocked that all the WOW lovers haven't flamed you for that statement alone, I mean come on dude, I'm no fan of WOW, but even I have to admit that Blizzard wrote the book on RPGs. Wow, now after writing all that I feel much better, mainly because it looks like the real clueless person here who doesnt know what they are talking about is you!

since when 74 is a "low" score? on a 100 scale, 74 is 3/4s, how is that "low"? 74 is low compared to what the original Dungeon Siege got which was an 85

If the game is broken, or destroys a computer, I may agree with you...but a game that works, your crazy. What, you're going to go eat at a Restuarant and if you don't like the food that you chose and ordered and was made according to regulations, you won't pay. I believe that's called Stealing. Then again, maybe you are one of those criminals and should be put away. IF it doesn't work or breaks your computer, I'd be all behind you, but to try to get money back on a working product is simply criminal in my opinion. At least you aren't as bad as the pirates. Actually most REAL resturaunts will offer you something different at no charge if you were not satisfied with your meal for any reason. I know for myself I was offered something different for dishes that weren't particularly as appetizing as it looked in the menu, heck one resturaunt even paid for my meal because THEY thought it took longer to come out than it should have. Now of course you dont see this everywhere, but there are those that do. The same can be said with game companies for example, Microsoft use to and may still offer a money back guarrantee if you are not satisfied with the product, and there are a couple others that use to do that as well. Unfotunately thanks to software piracy this is something that many companies have either stopped doing, or wont even consider doing it at all.

It would be horrible if Obsidian would do that since most of the complaints are completely incoherent nonsense resulting from obtuse and imperceptive mentality.. It would be like 98% of scientists apologizing for the creationism outrage because 56% of people are indoctrinated into thinking that primitive scribblings of goat herders a couple of thousand years ago is more valuable than empirical knowledge. You know its one thing to get on here and complain and get into heated discussions and get stupid with each other over something that quite honestly is not that important to begin with. Its another to make negative comments reguarding someones personal Scientific, or Spiritual beliefs. That my friend is completely out of line, I wouldnt do that to you, and I dont espect you to do that to me. I am reporting your post, and I certainly hope you get banned because that is uncalled for!

This review says it all... http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/dungeon-sie...y%3Bread-review

Because? There was a demo and reviews, no one told you to get the game before researching whether it suited your tastes or not. Thats a BS statement if I ever heard one, you know how many reviews I read that thought a game was so great, and then it ended up being terrible. Like Beauty, a good game is in the eye of the player, many people hated FEAR 2, but I loved it. Same can be said with DS3 I have ready more good reviews than bad, that doesn't make it a good game in my eyes because it is too far gone from the orignal formula that made the originals so good in my eyes, but there again I am the one that has to be satisfied with it, and I am not. And demos? I have played many demos that sucked, but the game ended up being rock solid, case in point Star Trek Online, the demo and beta sucked but the game ended up being good.

I couldnt have said it better. You know I just picked up this little $15 game off of steam called Dungeons and Dragons Daggerfall, and while it isn't the classic RPG style that I prefer like you would see in the first 2 DS games, it suer is alot more enjoyable and less frustrating than DS3.

I don't remember what chapter that is, I quit after finishing the desert area, there was no story in that game, no purpose to move forward, nothing. I didn't feel like I was doing something important. at least Diablo had great interface and co-op, DS had nothing other than small groups of enemies scattered around big empty areas Yes as much as I hate to admit it, DS 2 did have its fair share of BS to it. While I still found it enjoyable, some of the quests were confusing, and the save game feature blew goat ass. I still think it was a great game, just not as good as the first. And true DS multiplay was less than impressive when you compared it to the DS 2 game which allowed for coop. Thats where I was hoping that DS3 would take the good elements of both improve upon them.

Not surprising considering how long its been since the last game. Preordering gives such missleading info, they seell the **** outta the game before it comes out, that way when it does come out, no matter how bad it is, they made a butt load of money so it was a great game right? Sorry they might have sold alot of copies but that does not make it anything less than a Gauntlet clone under a different name.

Actually hands down the best action RPG since Diablo 1 and 2 yes.

Yeah, I liked DS3 better when it was called Gauntlet. Seriously DS3 is nothing more than an arcade version of the original game, and there is so little of the first two in this one that it has nothing to do with the DS universe other than the name. I find this shocking especially since obsidian put out Never Winter Nights 2, and a few other killer titles so I can't help but be dissappointed. Thank God Blizzard is doing Diablo as I am sure it will up to its name.

Couldnt disagree more, DS2 was a great game, I loved it. The only thing better than DS2 was DS1.

Amen brother! Unfortunately I posted a thread very similar to this and apparently most of the foks here like the water down lame ass chocolate covered crap that is dungeon siege 3.

no, it really doesn't. besides, there's a lot of similarities, other than not having a huge party following me and a different combat system, it feels very much like DS. which is everything I could have hoped for. so, you don't like to press buttons to play your characters, that's ok, you made your point. now what? Well yeah, here in the good old USA it does give me the right to complain. In fact according to the US constitution I have freedom of speech wether I buy the item in question or not. As far asa the similarities go????? Ummmm......ok, well its similar in the fact that it is an action rpg, and that it has similar settings that you would find in any rpg but nothing distinctive to the original Dungeon Siege gameplay, so I dont know what you are seeing, but IMO it is not Dungeon Siege.

Thank you for understanding me, and in fact making my point. I agree that as time goes on and sequels and re-makes get made that there is a natural evolution that occurs, and should occur to keep up with new technology and breath new life into old ideas or games. Now if DS3 had come out and had maybe the core system at the heart of the game and then they had just built upon what was already there like they did with DS2 then I would be all for it. DS3 didnt even have a point and click option, let alone anything that came out of the original games. These are things that shouldnt be sacrificed.

is it written somewhere (some sequel making code of honor or something) that sequels have to be exact copies but with different content? just chill. a lot more people didn't like the first DS, than did. so it's a welcome change. you've been heard, great, still doesn't mean your opinion is the only right one, why enforce it here? I'm not talking exact copies here, I am talking about some resemblence of the former games, and other than it being an isometric action rpg it is nothing like the first two at all. And why are you telling me to chill? I mean I did pay $50 for this game and I am not happy with what I paid for, doesnt that give me the right to complain? Last time I checked it did, and thats all this is, me expressing my dissappointment in the game like anyone else here would do if it were one of your favorite. I'm not enforcing anything.

I disagree, the first two were brilliant in my opinion and by DS standards this games falls way short. That being said, I dont think its a bad game, in fact it is fun and enjoyable. My point is I dont see how they can call it Dungeon Siege when it is nothing like the originals. That makes it hard for me to really get into it and enjoy it. In light of that I guess I will be relying on Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2 when they come out.

Yeah they called it Dungeon Siege 3, but it does no honor to the Dungeon Siege games, and certainly does not follow the same system that was setup in the first two. Since none of that was in there it is not Dungeon Siege game. Like FarCry2 had nothing to do with the original FarCry but they insisted in calling it FarCry2 anyway. Anyway, clearly a ****ty console port to PC, PC users screwed again!

It may have the name Dungeon Siege in the title, but that does not make it a Dungeon Siege game. I can't believe you put out this **** and try to pass it off as a Dungeon Siege game. There is nothing in this game that is specific to Dungeon Siege. Sure it has all the elements that EVERY other action RPG has like looting, the third person isometric view, etc... But that does not make the game. Dungeon Siege did things that no other action RPG did. The levelling system for one was completely original, what ever you used (i.e. melee, combat magic, nature magic, ranged) was what you levelled up in. There was no earning points and putting them where ever you wanted, it was a simple, effective RPG levelling system that made sense and worked very well! You could also have pack animals, DS2 even added pets that could fight by your side, and also added special abilities that allowed for a devistating attack every now and again. I understand that it has been a few years since the last DS game, but to take everything out of the game that made it Dungeon Siege is going to far. Chris Taylor should be ashamed of himself for allowing this to happen, and obsidian should get sued for destroying a good franchize! I hate this game, it sucks, and I want my money back!