BruceVC

You miss the point Bruce. The swear words he uses don't faze me. So no, I'm not so sensitive that if someone uses **** online that it offends me. It doesn't. However, as I said it may offend others. If other people are offended and can't get past the first paragraph, then he's lost readers. And the author using such words are not doing themselves any favours by using them when more effective words can be used. It comes across as a childish rant and lazy writing. And it's not about having a thick skin. I have a pretty think skin myself. It's about presentation. The article could have been written better without all the shouting and have had a more dramatic impact with the readers. And being online, do you think it appropriate that someone who makes any type of presentation, written or even video, that shouting at the audience is an effective way of communication? For instance, would people who follow Anita Sarkeesian like it if she ranted and shouted at her audience? I mean in your words, "What happened to the importance of free speech and having a thick skin?" When I see such articles, full of vitriol, swearing and shouting, I just zone out and move on. I'm not offended by it, I just can't be bothered reading it. If it was presented better, I would have read it all. Oh and you don't mind people shouting at you? If someone was shouting at you, you would just stand there and be okay with it? I mean, in your words, What happened to the importance of free speech and having a thick skin? I do find it funny you would compare this article to RPG Codex. I am now of the opinion that this article is not going to achieve its desired result because of how the message is being conveyed. So you make some good points around the whole belligerence of the author and the bad first impression he makes, but I did say "you need to get past the first paragraph" But for me I try to question the message, in other words " Attack the Argument, Not the Person" So I am more interested in what he is saying than the fact he is shouting ( but yes this can be annoying and counterproductive )

I feel an intense yearning to not read this article. Please read it objectively, I want your input. I may not always agree with you on topics but I respect your intellectual contribution towards many subjects

I have to honest, I was perhaps a bit premature to say the article was "excellent" I do find it interesting and it does raise good points but I am also finding several flaws in the writers thinking process am gonna concede that as a minority in America, we has gotten damn tired o' having to deal with the race "issue" all the freaking time. we, perhaps naively, did not take advantage o' affirmative action opportunities when looking to gain admittance to university, or when looking to pay for education. were stupid o' us in retrospect, but we didn't want to be defined by race. every time an acquaintance would make a remotely racist comment and then suddenly pull up short and kinda peak at us sidelong to see if we were offended, we would indeed be offended, but not so much by the slur. example heard last week: "f***ers can become a super power overnight, but they can't even get the starch in my shirts right." colleague makes a silly off-hand quip about his chinese launderer. comment were dumb, but why the hell should he look at Gromnir as if checking to see if we were angry? it does piss us off more than a little that we gotta constant deal with race... everywhere. yeah, when we go into a hardware store and we see shop owner keeping a particular close eye on us to make sure we don't steal nothing, we has eye-roll moment. is little moments o' racism we deal with all the time. perhaps we should be more concerned. however, if we never had to see discussions/debates o' race or sex in games, we would be relieved. yeah, it may be more relevant than Gromnir wishes it to be, but we got more than a stomach full o' such bile. HA! Good Fun! That's a interesting post, thanks for sharing some of your personal views on these matter as it adds relevant context Are you saying that at times in your experience there is an over-sensitivity towards race, for example people worried that you take offense about jokes. But then there are cases where racism is real, like the shop owner incident? But end of the day you don't feel racism is an issue in Video games or needs to highlighted as much as it is?

I couldn't finish it either. It came across as a bit of a mindless rant with a lot of shouting. Note to the author: If you want to get your point across, SHOUTING at your audience doesn't help. And while **** may not seem like a swear word to some people, others may find it offensive. Other words can be used instead with dramatic effect and may have more of an impact to readers without offending anyone. I never knew you were so sensitive Hiro? I have had debates with people on these forums about offensive and unacceptable comments on websites like RPGCodex, for example people joking about rape, and was told " its the Internet, people must learn to have thick skins" But now this one article seems to have created such outrage because the author is deemed to be shouting? What happened to the importance of free speech and having a thick skin?

But guess the actual score, that's much harder No thanks. I only do that when I am over-undering or betting (against) the spread. Ah, okay. Makes sense

You're okay with the guy playing hero and rescuing babes in bikinis? I'll direct you to this site: Tropes vs Women in Video Games That's a good link, but no I'm not necessarily saying that rescuing babes in bikinis is wrong or right I'm saying that there are several reasons why someone may play a game like this and its not all about someone being juvenile

I have to honest, I was perhaps a bit premature to say the article was "excellent" I do find it interesting and it does raise good points but I am also finding several flaws in the writers thinking process

Final scores France vs Nigeria: 1-0 Germany vs Algeria 2-1

Holy Smoke, Ice-Cream flavoured Tabasco !!! I love Tabasco and I use the standard 4-5 flavours regularly. How many different flavours did you see?

But guess the actual score, that's much harder

My prediction on real goals scored was 100 % correct again ( yes I got the penalty shootouts wrong but my psychic abilities only extend so far )

So, no more 'dark' settings then? That's a good point Malc, his statement doesn't make sense. And in fact could inhibit the creative process around gaming. Because what is the definition of "oppressive", its subjective

What points don't you agree with? Good question, he mentions for example "forgettable white guy shooting people in the face and rescusing babes in bikinis. Nobody is going to take that Dionysian joy away from you, except yourself, when you grow up" I think he is generalizing and simplifying why people play certain games. What's wrong with playing a game just for the entertainment factor? Everything doesn't have to be a about a statement. Also its condescending to suggest that people who play certain games are juvenile. The mindless entertainment could be a way escapism from the pressures of RL so we shouldn't judge

I'm sure your training schedule is a factor in that type of fatigue

Wow, such support and patriotism for your country. I'm overwhelmed

What a game, well done Netherlands Did you guys notice my guess for the score was 100 % correct. Now Greece vs Costa Rica

Volo please try to be serious, did you read the article ?

Upset ??? You should be celebrating

Bruce, by Philly Steak Roll are you referring to a Philly Cheesesteak? If you ever get to Philadelphia, you should try Pat's or Geno's. They're located near the Italian Market in Philadelphia (which also has great shopping). I prefer Pat's, but Geno's has a large following as well. Sounds like you had a great day! Squeakymeister "waves" Yeah that's what we call it in South Africa, thx for the tip about Philadelphia I love Philly Cheesesteak, very yummy. I had my first one about 5 years in Atlanta airport on our way to a technical symposium in Las Vegas

I can't believe you really think that

Pretty much this. I agree, for me this is one of the numerous insights he makes

http://midnightresistance.co.uk/articles/****ty-toys Guys please read this article that discusses several pertinent issues that we often raise like the privilege that white, straight males have in modern society, there influence in gaming, the definition of censorship and also how games should be more inclusive. But its not a guilt trip, I think the author makes some cogent and thought- provoking points. Don't get put off by the first paragraph, the journalist offers some real insights I don't agree with everything he says but most of it makes sense, what do you think?

Went to a Farmers Flea Market today which is basically a collection of delicious food stalls. That's one of the many perks about living in a big city. Flea markets and outdoor events are a big deal, there are a variety of them and they are always well supported. I ate Greek pastries and a Philly Steak Roll. I also bought some Gorgonzola cheese, exotic jams ( to have with the cheese later) and some scrumptious Cabanossi So it was a successful trip

Its a big game. No doubt about that and Mexico have the confidence of being underdogs but I still believe Netherlands will win

You agreed trolling is not always malicious in the trolling tread in WoT. So please don't make stuff up. However, your intent was to have fun at my expense by bringing in a contentious topic that has no relevance to this thread. Yes, you're trolling and it's not appreciated by myself and by a lot of people on this board. Ah but you are misunderstanding something, my intention with my post was just to make you laugh. True trolling is where you just want to upset someone. That's not what I am doing