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This is eerie. I am thinking the same thing. Okay so what is your reason for this type of inexplicable thinking? A mild psychosis or just irrational fear that the " Muricans may invade Finland " ? Empathy, Bruce. Empathy. Okay....well normally I would take any post with the word empathy in it seriously because I often say " in life we need to have empathy " But you have never really demonstrated any real empathy on these forums? Or am I being unfair ?
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Im from the UK, its like saying " all white people from the UK have a bit of Stalin in them" ...its such a nebulous association why would I get offended? For example just because you Russian someone calling you Stalin would that actually offend you ? For me real bigotry is not about words, it has to have intent and impact. I am honestly battling to think what you could call any white person that would conjure up real images of misery?
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In Canada? That is a shock but we have to be specific, what type of racism....white supremacy, islamophobia, racist to black people etc. All of that. Also against Natives. Canadians have interesting delusions, I have noticed. And no, curling isn't a real sport I have to say coming from Canada that is even more disappointing I am well aware that anywhere in the world where white people are dominant there will always be small groups within those white communities that are racist or display bigotry And the strange thing is white people are historically the least most discriminated demographic group in the world In SA sometimes a black person thinks they will offend white people by comparing us to something that is not at all insulting...for example some black people think the worst thing to call a white person is a comparison to Hitler not realizing only some Jewish people would get offended by that http://synapses.co.za/mcebo-dlaminis-free-speech-love-hitler/
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This is eerie. I am thinking the same thing. Okay so what is your reason for this type of inexplicable thinking? A mild psychosis or just irrational fear that the " Muricans may invade Finland " ?
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In Canada? That is a shock but we have to be specific, what type of racism....white supremacy, islamophobia, racist to black people etc.
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volo is this what you believe?
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LK your opinion on this election was that the results were basically rigged and that the Media were going to be instrumental in a Hilary victory. Others shared this sentiment After this result what do you now think?
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Im just trying to understand your view, what American are you referring to?
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volo can I ask you something, and I hope you dont think Im insulting you because some people will assume I am but I am not like that Do you take medication for any kind of mild mental ailment like bipolar or something similar? I know you use to people just ignoring these types of posts but maybe this is what you really think about Obama? Why would you think Obama would ignore an assassination attempt of any American?
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Why Political Correctness (Cultural Marxism) Must End!
BruceVC replied to Valsuelm's topic in Way Off-Topic
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-interview-weighs-twitter-use-as-president/ Guys here is first honest interview Trump gave since winning the election It should make anyone feel much better about his policies -
True, well he was a Neocon...the Iraq invasion ended the Neocon rise to supremacy
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Why do you feel guilty? I told you guys not to vote independent There are many reasons Trump won this election, do you want to know who I think needs to take the most responsibility ? Do tell. I'm glad someone asked, I am a modest person and hate just making posts unless people ask Firstly this election was a huge paradigm shift for me and I have learnt some very important lessons about several societal issues. Also I stand by my support of Hilary and the Democrats but I also realize I was wrong about some of the things I thought about Trump, so I support him now as president but I'm not flip flopping just because he won. This point is very complex and has a myriad of levels but I'll try to summarize it Most of us firmly believe in a world where we reject historical bigotry and where we live in a society where we have equal opportunities to succeed. But that doesnt mean white men cannot express there opinion or somehow there views are ignored because of the history of the rise of the West SJ in RL is important but it cannot be the only metric we use to determine value, for example during the election race every single night I would watch the numerous media networks and basically the conversation was always about some offensive comment Trump had made and how he was a real bigot....yet the discussion around political policy was basically neglected ...yet this was an election I dont blame the media because I was also convinced debates about Trumps " build the wall " mattered more than anything else. Most debates about equality have got to a stage nowadays where a white males opinion is ignored because of the history of the modern world and colonialism. For example I assumed every white person who didnt agree with the general SJ narrative was being a bigot or intentionally ignorant, this was because of my own history living in South Africa where I always hear generalizations about white people but we just ignore it because its meaningless and based on insecurity But what about a white person who is not a bigot but also doesn't necessarily understand or support the various SJ narratives we see nowadays.....he should be allowed to say " no I dont think I should be now called a racist just because Im not agreeing with how a certain group should be treated differently because of past injustice ". A white male should be able to disagree without the assumption he is a bigot Throughout the world countries that offer there citizens the best quality of life and also have strong economies all support human rights and practice equality. Yet in many cases when the Europeans first came to these countries they did exploit or kill much of the original inhabitants. I support understanding and addressing this imbalance but a constant guilt trip on the descendants of the original white settlers becomes unhelpful and can be abused Western countries welcome immigrants yet in many cases we have ignored certain cases of refugees refusing to accept our values. For example the isolated but real incidents of some Muslims living in the UK where they have no respect for white women yet are happy to accept the social advantages of living in the UK is simply unacceptable...respect the values of Western countries or leave What confused this US election is the way the SJ lines were almost immediately drawn...anyone who wanted to support Trump was a bigot and all " normal and reasonable " people obviously supported Hilary. Of course Trump exacerbated this specious assumption by his comments so it was understandable most of us assumed things about him But for example when Carson supported Trump it was considered inconceivable for most of us. And why should women have to lie when pollsters asked them who they would support? Clearly this is an aberration yet it was ignored The Obama legacy is a good and reasonable initiative yet it is a socialist hybrid and in the context of the USA was seen as unpopular and intrusive by many. So despite its good intentions it needs to be redesigned Now this doesn't mean I will be changing any of personal views on SJ and of course we musn't ignore real bigotry or discrimination but we ignore what normal white men\women are fearing or thinking we will end up with the current reality of the USA We have no idea what his presidency will really mean so I want to wait and see. But we cannot ignore there are people supporting him who do believe in white supremacy yet they are just a part of his complex support structure. So going forward we need to recognize white men are allowed to have a voice and opinion, if this is dismissed we risk an outcome like we seeing in the USA which Im sure will be fine but was unpredictable
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I have difficulty mustering up much sympathy for Obama...or the Democratic Party in general...when it was partly thanks to their efforts in trying to ensure that Hillary won the primaries that we now have Trump as president. It's not like her various scandals and flaws weren't well-known then. No, I feel bad for Bernie Sanders, who was cheated and insulted by the people who were supposed to share a similar ideology to him...and for all of us who actually tried to get him to win. And the fact he was a far left populist didnt bother you ? Barti I liked Sanders, I always did but you realize many things he promised or suggested he wouldn't be able to actually do....like breaking up the Investment Banks ?
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I'm just teasing you, you went to Iraq and served your country. I would never tell you who you should vote for At the time I thought you were overreacting but the truth is Obama overplayed the whole " people who care about my legacy must vote for Hilary " Hilary was not Obama, even if people like myself believed the hype But I still have huge respect for Obama and firmly believe history will judge him favorably He still has a very high popularity rating which is unusual for this time of second term ? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/prez_track_nov16
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Hold on ....so now " you dont trust the media ".....since when volo? Volo no need to jump on the " down with the media bandwagon" its more an American thing I still trust the media on most things, the media was manipulated by the Trump campaign.....its not our fault we focused on the wrong issues
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Why do you feel guilty? I told you guys not to vote independent There are many reasons Trump won this election, do you want to know who I think needs to take the most responsibility ? Who feels guilty? I assumed you were because you ignored what Obama said to you when he said " people MUST vote for Hilary if they care about my legacy " ?
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Who you referring to when you say A and B?
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Firstly no one thought Trump would win...but I have been analyzing this election and I can give you several reasons for the Trump victory if you want to know?
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Why do you feel guilty? I told you guys not to vote independent There are many reasons Trump won this election, do you want to know who I think needs to take the most responsibility ?
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No many political commentators have admitted they were wrong and want to do a better job around these types of events in the future ....the media is self-regulating volo, no need to worry Good one Bruce. Obola could do no wrong, and Trump can do no right. I'm sorry you feel Trump can do no right, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming most of what he said in the race to presidency was strategic and intentionally populist. He has already said several things that highlight he is aware of his new role and what it means and thats very hopeful
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No many political commentators have admitted they were wrong and want to do a better job around these types of events in the future ....the media is self-regulating volo, no need to worry
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Guys you talk about racism, this happened in SA 2 days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRGJpHyVxYg
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Im not pessimistic, I'm pragmatic....huge difference
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WOD what influence do you think Stephen Bannon will have on the Trump presidency ? Is he a white supremacist? I think Trump feels a certain debt to him and his alt right supporters who played a key part in ensuring a Trump victory which is why he appointed him " chief strategist and senior counselor " but that is a job description that is nebulous and I think Trump did that on purpose as this special role is not the same as having someone like Reince Priebus who is now in an established position. So in other words Trump is ensuring he is still loyal but not making controversial placements No, being a nationalist isn't the same thing as being a white supremacist. I think he'll have a very good influence as Trump will be pushed by the establishment to ease off illegal immigration and other things beneficial to corporations and harmful to the American people. It makes perfect sense to tap him as a strategic adviser since that's basically the role he played in the campaign and the campaign resulted in the most amazing victory in the entire American history. Also I wish people, including you, would shut up about the "alt-right" moniker. The way that term (which no one ever heard before Democrat propaganda machine publicized it during the election) works is "Everyone who's anti-establishment is alt-right. Alt-right are a bunch of racists. Therefore everyone anti-establishment is a racist!" No there is such a thing as alt-right, you are assuming I think the term has one definition It doesn't, there will be different groups who claim to be alt-right but at its core alt-right are people who reject mainstream Republican conservatism This doesnt mean the person is automatically a bigot but there will be bigots who claim to be alt-right
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WOD what influence do you think Stephen Bannon will have on the Trump presidency ? Is he a white supremacist? I think Trump feels a certain debt to him and his alt right supporters who played a key part in ensuring a Trump victory which is why he appointed him " chief strategist and senior counselor " but that is a job description that is nebulous and I think Trump did that on purpose as this special role is not the same as having someone like Reince Priebus who is now in an established position. So in other words Trump is ensuring he is still loyal but not making controversial placements
