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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/22/politics/jewish-cemetery-muslims-fundraising-trnd/index.html I have been very impressed by Pence on a number of examples, like this and his speeches and points he made in the latest EU visits

Are you sure you are understanding the combat mechanics, failure to grasp the nuances of any RPG ruleset can sometimes manifest as " chores " in parts of the game?

volo you have been given a unique opportunity to not embarrass yourself, defending a degenerate like Milo is really not a good idea You live in some mountain village in some remote part of Canada, distance yourself from him and never mention him again.....this is your chance for redemption

volo do you feel its necessary to defend Milo, you guys seriously need to lift your bar? I am honestly embarrassed how little you think of moral value. I can make some suggestions ? Well you live as you fight. What video is that

GD what would you say are worse nowadays or what do you think is getting worse?

I still maintain Obama was an excellent president, yes I now can see some real failures but he did more good than bad ? WOD let me ask you this so I understand your criticism of Obama better, what were the 3 worst things he did or tried to do in your view?

Ben you are missing over half the conversation. Alum & I were discussion a single benefit offered in the employer provided health insurance for public sector employees in California. It's offered as part of their employment compensation benefits. It is not "State Healthcare" in the way you are thinking. My point was whether it is a waste of tax money (that is obviously needed elsewhere, like the Oroville Dam) to offer what might be considered elective surgery on the public dime. Alum's point was that it wasn't really elective surgery and considering the number of state employees it is a benefit that will be used so infrequently as to not be worth getting in a twist over. What you are talking about here is a whole other subject. GD I haven't been following what you and alum have been saying, I just read the last paragraph or so. I want to share my opinion on this, firstly I can completely understand why you may think that Gender Reassignment Surgery is not a dire medical condition. Many people share you view so you skepticism is not unusual But imagine this, I want to give you one of my famous " BruceVC analogies " When you wake up in the morning and have a shave you look yourself in the mirror. People our age may think "damn I look like my dad more and more " but end of the day what we see in the reflection is ourselves...older....wiser...but there is no confusion on what we see. We see ourselves as men and despite any problems we have experienced we have never questioned our gender But imagine your entire life when you look at that reflection you always feel something is wrong with the image, how can you be a man when you are women? You think you a women, emotionally and mentally yet the mirror lies with what you are So for some cases of Gender Reassignment Surgery the surgery is critical for mental balance, it may not be always life and death like some cancerous growth but the constant mental confusion must be a terrible burden to bear I know this is probably difficult to empathize with but thats the argument for procedures like this being part of any medical aid system and I support that

2133 as much as I would love all the countries you mentioned to embrace the positive and transformative qualities of Western ideology you cannot force people to uplift themselves and have a better life....some governments just prefer running there countries in a benighted and intolerant way Look at Iraq, they had the chance to chose peace and Democracy and they decided on sectarian violence

Okay I know him, he is a very astute commentator . He was a legend near the end of the Cold War and a highly respected advisor to various US presidents Thanks for letting me know

I dont hate Trump, its counterintuitive to hate a new president of any country. Objective criticism is fine, I have seen some very good decisions by the Trump presidency around foreign policy but he has made some questionable domestic political decisions. But its far too early to write him off I can answer the link though, I'm confused by the point the link is making? Trump is neither of those options, I can see positive in both options but neither is ideal for me. But I dont get the spurious comparisons or what is the expected outcome of answering the questions? It's just for Trump haters to see if they'd hate him just as much if one or the other alternative is true. It's meant to point out to people that may be the reason they state for hating Trump isn't the real reason. More on the Milo controversy: http://thedeclination.com/the-media-strikes-back-milo-lies-and-videotape/ It's clear what he said though, why defend him? https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/20/some-breitbart-employees-set-to-walk-if-milo-not-fired/ Okay I see what you mean by the Trump questions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarry_(TV_series) Guys I recommend this, its about an ex-Vietnam veteran who does 2 tours and returns home to different reality since he has been at war. He then becomes a hitman for a variety of reasons and some you can understand

Well, she IS her father's daughter. I dont get it ?

Hair dye works wonders but its harder to dye the beard so stay clean-shaven

GB are you worried the media is indeed controlling your thoughts ? How deep does the rabbit hole go ..... No of course they don't. But it is arrogance and hubris of the highest order that they think that is their role. Okay, good to know because I was going to say "if you are someone who is suppose to be controlled by the media then they have failed utterly and abysmally in creating kinship and loyalty around their perceived thought control programs " ( the media scores an F- in controlling thoughts )

GB are you worried the media is indeed controlling your thoughts ? How deep does the rabbit hole go .....

" Breitbart linking to Breitbart ".... This really made me laugh, just the thought of that is so absurd its hilarious

I dont hate Trump, its counterintuitive to hate a new president of any country. Objective criticism is fine, I have seen some very good decisions by the Trump presidency around foreign policy but he has made some questionable domestic political decisions. But its far too early to write him off I can answer the link though, I'm confused by the point the link is making? Trump is neither of those options, I can see positive in both options but neither is ideal for me. But I dont get the spurious comparisons or what is the expected outcome of answering the questions?

The thing is that those things can be address those grievances but there are things that are higher on importance list for those who decide things, like fighting over if gays can marry or not, for billionth time. I think the rights of the gay citizens of any country should be more important than trying to integrate immigrants Citizens rights IMO should always come first in most cases But the thing is we increased marriage right to include same sex unions several years ago, this year our new government wanted to take that back just month before the new law come in effect. You joking? You telling me the Finnish government is trying to reverse gay marriage in Finland, what was the outcome ?

But arent we facing a hopeless outcome of inevitable violence if you right, we both admit some of the refugees dont have the same life they had in Syria and this is to expected. Countries like Sweden and Finland are not Syria and never will be, so if the outcome to end violence is " we need to address there core grievance " which is not possible, then surely we are saying " there will always be violence " as we cannot make certain immigrants happy I consider that an unacceptable corollary to immigrants coming to our Western countries ? The thing is that those things can be address those grievances but there are things that are higher on importance list for those who decide things, like fighting over if gays can marry or not, for billionth time. I think the rights of the gay citizens of any country should be more important than trying to integrate immigrants Citizens rights IMO should always come first in most cases

Do you know what new happen that riots started? Edit2: People seem to be angry about their life and said arrest seems to have worked as convenient excuse to release that anger in the violent and nonconstructive way that is typical for some people regardless of their origin. What complaints would immigrants have living in such a generous country as Sweden have that they are angry? What are they angry about ? There are lots of things to complain and when those things are solved there are more things to complain. Like for example why some native Finns (about 200 people) were so angry that they felt need to riot on our independence day by throwing rocks towards police, purposefully trying to hurt police horses and break their legs, breaking shop windows, stealing stuff, and vandalizing places. They gave multiple reason why they did what they did, they said that they don't get enough money from government, government don't give them enough jobs, president is idiot, rich should not have parties paid from tax Euros, etc.. When people feel that their life sucks some of them will always find reasons to cause damage to others or their properties like that somehow would make their life better if other people are also miserable. But dont you think its worse to see people who left there own country for various reason and immigrated to a first world Western country, which provides examples of some of the best qualities of life, and then those immigrants still complain and are angry? In other words I have no issues with citizens in a country complaining unreasonably but I have an issue when a country takes in immigrants and its small groups of those immigrants complaining.,.,.they can always go home ? Dont you think its inconsistent ? It depends what you think are those examples of some of the best qualities of life are? The life of immigrants especially refugees isn't really nothing to speak about when it comes to quality of life. Most Syrians for example had much better quality of life before their civil war than what they get here in Finland and I don't believe that situation is any better in Sweden. Like for example we don't let them work even if they want, we put them in centers/housing areas where they don't have little contact with natives, which don't have really any activities, especially in evenings. They are usually put in with people from lots of other countries. It is all planned to be temporal, but then decade past and nothing changes, except that they need to share their living quarters with more people. Of course above isn't faith that everybody faces but it is faith that lots of those who are angriest share. Fair enough, you make some valid reasons why immigrants could be unhappy in a first world Western country But I'm not completely convinced this somehow justifies them committing acts of violence as people who have been invited and welcomed to live in another country. So you can be angry but that shouldn't translate to acts of violence and public criminality ? Acts of violence and public criminality isn't never acceptable, which is why looking causes behind people's actions is important step in help to find ways to prevent more such happening in future. But arent we facing a hopeless outcome of inevitable violence if you right, we both admit some of the refugees dont have the same life they had in Syria and this is to expected. Countries like Sweden and Finland are not Syria and never will be, so if the outcome to end violence is " we need to address there core grievance " which is not possible, then surely we are saying " there will always be violence " as we cannot make certain immigrants happy I consider that an unacceptable corollary to immigrants coming to our Western countries ?

Do you know what new happen that riots started? Edit2: People seem to be angry about their life and said arrest seems to have worked as convenient excuse to release that anger in the violent and nonconstructive way that is typical for some people regardless of their origin. What complaints would immigrants have living in such a generous country as Sweden have that they are angry? What are they angry about ? There are lots of things to complain and when those things are solved there are more things to complain. Like for example why some native Finns (about 200 people) were so angry that they felt need to riot on our independence day by throwing rocks towards police, purposefully trying to hurt police horses and break their legs, breaking shop windows, stealing stuff, and vandalizing places. They gave multiple reason why they did what they did, they said that they don't get enough money from government, government don't give them enough jobs, president is idiot, rich should not have parties paid from tax Euros, etc.. When people feel that their life sucks some of them will always find reasons to cause damage to others or their properties like that somehow would make their life better if other people are also miserable. But dont you think its worse to see people who left there own country for various reason and immigrated to a first world Western country, which provides examples of some of the best qualities of life, and then those immigrants still complain and are angry? In other words I have no issues with citizens in a country complaining unreasonably but I have an issue when a country takes in immigrants and its small groups of those immigrants complaining.,.,.they can always go home ? Dont you think its inconsistent ? It depends what you think are those examples of some of the best qualities of life are? The life of immigrants especially refugees isn't really nothing to speak about when it comes to quality of life. Most Syrians for example had much better quality of life before their civil war than what they get here in Finland and I don't believe that situation is any better in Sweden. Like for example we don't let them work even if they want, we put them in centers/housing areas where they don't have little contact with natives, which don't have really any activities, especially in evenings. They are usually put in with people from lots of other countries. It is all planned to be temporal, but then decade past and nothing changes, except that they need to share their living quarters with more people. Of course above isn't faith that everybody faces but it is faith that lots of those who are angriest share. Fair enough, you make some valid reasons why immigrants could be unhappy in a first world Western country But I'm not completely convinced this somehow justifies them committing acts of violence as people who have been invited and welcomed to live in another country. So you can be angry but that shouldn't translate to acts of violence and public criminality ?

Do you know what new happen that riots started? Edit2: People seem to be angry about their life and said arrest seems to have worked as convenient excuse to release that anger in the violent and nonconstructive way that is typical for some people regardless of their origin. What complaints would immigrants have living in such a generous country as Sweden have that they are angry? What are they angry about ? There are lots of things to complain and when those things are solved there are more things to complain. Like for example why some native Finns (about 200 people) were so angry that they felt need to riot on our independence day by throwing rocks towards police, purposefully trying to hurt police horses and break their legs, breaking shop windows, stealing stuff, and vandalizing places. They gave multiple reason why they did what they did, they said that they don't get enough money from government, government don't give them enough jobs, president is idiot, rich should not have parties paid from tax Euros, etc.. When people feel that their life sucks some of them will always find reasons to cause damage to others or their properties like that somehow would make their life better if other people are also miserable. But dont you think its worse to see people who left there own country for various reason and immigrated to a first world Western country, which provides examples of some of the best qualities of life, and then those immigrants still complain and are angry? In other words I have no issues with citizens in a country complaining unreasonably but I have an issue when a country takes in immigrants and its small groups of those immigrants complaining.,.,.they can always go home ? Dont you think its inconsistent ?

Do you know what new happen that riots started? Edit2: People seem to be angry about their life and said arrest seems to have worked as convenient excuse to release that anger in the violent and nonconstructive way that is typical for some people regardless of their origin. What complaints would immigrants have living in such a generous country as Sweden have that they are angry? What are they angry about ?

RT is the paradigm of the true fake news development we face , you need to post links from other websites if you want me to respond

Bravo Bruce for victim blaming.Milo was a victim and if this kind of remarks helped him to deal with the trauma then I have no problem with that. I don't see this comment any more outrageous or supportive of pedophilia than Sarah Silverman, Jeff Dunham, Anthony Jeselnik and legion of others comedians who make this kind of jokes at regular basis. Let's be clear the story has nothing to do with people wanting to fight pedophilia it's a cynical excuse to attack Milo. Besides he appologized for poor choice of words: http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/02/21/milo-apologizes/ I personally hope he will be ok. " I personally hope he will be ok " :lol: You joking right, tell me you joking right? Oh wait you not joking .... So you think his comments about pedophilia are not uncommon, so please give me an example of someone in the public limelight who had been abused by a child molester and made an utterly reprehensible comment like " I am glad I was abused because thats why I am so experienced at sex " ...and I want actual real comments they made similar to this I look forward to your examples The same people who attack Milo are defending a convicted pedophile because he's a famous director - Roman Polański. That's all I need to know about those people. It seems its ok to be one if you are a part of the clique but it's not ok to joke about your own abuse if you're not a part of the clique. As for quotes only recently Silverman asked is ot still pedophilia if the kid did the first move. I could post a dozen or a hundred, but why bother you would just ignore them. Which people who dislike Milo think what Polanski did is okay? Can you provide links that make this comparison....I will read them But again I doubt you can provide this information because you live and operate in the world of alternative facts so when you are called out on these types of comments you cannot respond with anything credible Also I would think its appalling if any other person, whether they are a comedian or not, attempted to normalize, justify or make light of pedophilia. So I'm not sure how you can possibly think just because someone like Silvermans comments are similar to Milos makes it okay or makes Milo any less of a lowlife and degenerate human being Lets be clear, ANYONE who thinks pedophilia is okay needs to judged and harshly criticised in the public limelight