BruceVC

You ask a good question, how much can the West stomach? I am prepared to continue for as long as it takes to end Putins War. The problem with not finding a real negotiated settlement is you just embolden Putin and his warmongering and that doesnt help anyone. Lets look at the sequence of events that led us to this We were told Putins not a warmonger : That was a lie We were told Putins worried about NATO but he is one trying to recreate the old Soviet borders irrespective if the citizen of that country want to align with Russia or not We were told Putin wanted to negotiate around Ukraine : That was lie We were told Putins buildup of troops on the Ukraine border was just a " training exercise " :That was a lie We were told Putin wont try to unilaterally recognize the separatist states : That was a lie We were told Putin wont invade Ukraine : That was a lie We were told invasion was about helping Russian speaking people and the denazification of Ukraine: That was a lie We were told the Russian military wont target Ukrainin civilians : That was a lie The West and its allies needs to make a stand ,as Putin cannot be ever trusted to not do this again, over Ukraine and it shouldnt end until we come to a proper, agreed on settlement that the Ukrainians also agree to

Malc thats a terrible thing to suggest, what about the humanitarian mission in Somalia that the movie Black Hawk Down was based on? What about Bosnia and Kosovo...I dont think either of those countries have oil?

I have found the best criticism is constructive criticism from others because if we only rely on self criticism than we often miss things about ourselves.

Yes the US has been the largest producer of oil for years, thats another reason why its silly when people go on about " The US only invades countries that have oil " because thats patently untrue

Hes Canadian, he cant be American

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-market-news-live-updates-march-9-2022-231603838.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Good news, the oil price dropped to $110 just on sentiment that OPEC will produce more oil Hopefully they stick to this commitment because then the Russian invasion will have less global economic impact around this commodity @Darkpriest Its good news if OPEC will sustain it

The Russians have just bombed a hospital amongst other civilian targets....so either they the most incompetent army in the world or they are indeed targeting civilians which makes them craven and truly reprehensible

Interesting read and he makes some good points

You right again Sarex, " better dead than red "

Where country do you live in, I just realized I dont know but I assume its in East Europe ?

Thats one way of looking at it or maybe you can see this as the countries of the EU are stronger together and reject the notion of being forced to join Putins unconvincing new empire and thats what the majority of citizens of the EU want and believe?

I honestly dont know if Gorth condemns the invasion or he is fine with it because he has mentioned things like Monroe Doctrine and Real Politick. And I am not sure how this influences his personal view around this invasion of Ukraine I think its important we all honest with that simple question because the consequences of Putins War are economically going to hurt us all until Putin reverses what he started And people must be honest, if you fine with this invasion then just say so. But own it at least

Im 80 hours into The Forest and Im still having lots of fun. I have started creating my own "camps " that include rabbit breeding cages, gardens and I even have a tree-house that I can rest in without being attacked by the stinking cannibals Great survival game

Interesting perspective, so based on that argument are you saying it should be fine and globally acceptable for Putin to invade other East European countries because Europe isnt unified? Because what still confuses me about this justification of Putins War is what are you saying? Either you condemn what Russia did or you fine with it ....so what is it ? And Im not being patronizing, I honestly am not sure where you personally stand ?

Arent East European countries part of Europe ? So when Putin says he wants to recreate the borders of the failed Soviet Empire I hate to question your knowledge of geography but that means European countries...so guess what friend, it is your war

Also the Russian Central Bank can print Rubles to create a semblance of consistency within Russia and citizens can at least draw money in Rubles. Yes the currency is almost worthless but for a while people can still buy goods within Russia using the Ruble But the risk is this could lead to more inflation and hyperinflation like we saw in Zimbabwe but we still some way off as long as Russia can continue to sell commodities in $ But overall the Russian economy is looking bleak and disastrous

Wow you really are angry and confused, I get it your side has been proven to be the bigger liars and warmongers than the US but dont blame the rest of us Remember its Russia that has invaded Ukraine, not the US that has invaded Iraq so you musnt get confused when you vent and express outrage

That would be funny and ironic I must admit

China, the country that was the birthplace of Corona and most other viruses Let me guess Sarex, you suggesting we should care what China thinks about Biological labs in other countries

Okay I see what you saying

Im not understanding your post? What is the Polish government hiding behind and what do you expect them to do? They supplying aircraft to the Ukrainians and in turn getting aircraft from the US. This is what the Ukrainians have been asking for ? Isnt that what your government is doing?

And you honestly, and I mean really honestly, dont believe that deep down inside the Russians arent killing civilians ?

Yes, its well known that the general Russian military approach has no concern for civilian deaths and in fact targeting civilians is often part of their strategy like we saw in Grozny, Syria and other conflicts But its always unsettling and sad to witness it . I agree

https://www.gog.com/en/news/suspending_sales_in_russia_and_belarus?at_gd=3F95D19773427329A81C6EB5DC9A591A7B81F14A&utm_campaign=adtraction&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=adtraction This may be old news but I only read this today, GOG has banned sales in Russia and Belarus Well done GOG for making this difficult but correct decisions

That is stupid, not serving this type of French inspired dish because it sort of sounds like Putin But I guess its hard to quantify peoples anger with the outright hostility demonstrated from Putin ?