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I'm on record as saying drugs need to be decriminalised, but this last statement of yours seems pretty ****ing naive. Well, based on research made here in Finland (which I know is probably different from the states), prisons are where amateur criminals become professional criminals. Gang activity (mostly 1%) is a relatively new phenomenon in Finland and has been researched since the early 90s when the Hells Angels and Bandidos first came to Finland. After that we've seen a real explosion of new gangs, both prison and regular. I'd say my statement is probably more true for illegal aliens since they've got nothing to lose if they get sent to prison for committing no crime. Latino gangs are numerous and powerful and have a strong network in prison and they offer "work" after you get out.

That'd probably never happen. I'm a very opinionated person, and I love arguing. I guess you can put the blame on yourself as much as the people you argue with then. You youself would be the one making life difficult for you in Texas. I'm not religious by any means, but atheists annoy the hell out of me. Pompous bastards telling other people how to live. If everyone just got rid of state supported organized religion and kept their opinions to themselves we'd have no problems.

Reminds me of the "Hutu" or "Tutsi" mentioned on old Rwandese passports... or Jewish stars in the 30s. Those are quite extreme examples of racial profiling, but yes if this was made into a law it could lead to something similar.

I actually hear Austin is pretty great. There's an annual punk fest there, Chaos In Tejas where multiple friends of mine have gone to through the years and everyone's loved the place. As long as you keep your atheism and opinions to yourself I think it's like any other place in the states. Sucks if you're gay, dark skinned or otherwise stand out from the majority though.

This is stupid because it means no more cab drivers for Texas. What?? That's ridiculous. If you mean that illegal immigrants cannot hold a valid drivers license in Texas... or California or Oregon or nearly any state in the union... that's absolutely correct. However, legal residents with a valid green card can indeed get a drivers license. See the problem is that illegals steal the identities of citizens and legal residents to forge drivers' licenses... and social security cards, and green cards... you get the gist. That's because they are here... stay with me now... illegally, which is against federal (and in one case state) law. I'm sorry, you're saying that they're already not issuing drivers licenses to illegals? I must have misunderstood that quote then. They're just proposing to add a space where it says "CITIZEN/NON-CITIZEN" then, right? I understood illegals can at the moment get a drivers license and do drive most of the cabs in Texas, based on talks with a friend. Guess he was wrong, then.

Only southern asia has harsher penalties for drugs than the US. Yet your problem is getting worse, not better. Ah yes, the politicians. You forget that you're the one who voted the politicians in power, you're the one who's buying products grown or made by illegals, you're the one who's reaping the benefits while at the same time complaining about the side effects. By you I mean the american people collectively. I honestly think the gain/lose ratio is balanced for you when it comes to illegals. All the San Diego fence proves is that the illegals found another ways to get into the states. It's pretty na

^^ And it all boils down to greed. Americans want to pay as little as possible for everything. Too bad it just comes with side effects like illegal aliens.

I'll post this here then. Huh, haven't read about that. Still, I see little proof and lots of speculation. In the past all major terrorist attacks on US soil, excluding 9/11 have been done by american citizens. Al Qaeda or similar muslim terrorist groups are targeting muslim countries now. Their influence and power is diminishing fast and they're trying to hold on to whats left, mainly be trying to scare other more moderate muslims to their cause. That's not to say that they won't hit the US in the future, but bringing it as a point in a discussion about illegal aliens is just populism and fear mongering.

If it turns out to be innefective its going to be because the officers refuse to enforce it. From what I've read, just the threat of passing this law cut down on illegal aliens crossing the border into Arizona and many have left for other states. Once the leak is plugged THEN we can worry about 'comprehensive immigration reform' aka amnesty for those already in the country. The Democrats seem to want to do that first... then 'maybe if they feel like it' address the real problem of an unsecure border. Still, I'd be careful passing laws that are basically ethnic profiling. It's a slippery slope. I don't understand what terrorists have to do with illegal aliens? IIRC all of the 9/11 terrorists were in the country legally and most if not all other big terrorist attacks have been made by US citizens. Huh, haven't read about that. Still, I see little proof and lots of speculation. In the past all major terrorist attacks on US soil, excluding 9/11 have been done by american citizens. Al Qaeda or similar muslim terrorist groups are targeting muslim countries now. That's not to say that they won't hit the US in the future, but bringing it as a point in a discussion about illegal aliens is just populism and fear mongering.

One possible solution would be making hiring illegals heavily fined and actually enforcing it. This would make Hurlshots option #1 viable and reduce illegal aliens without the need for fences. Uh... like I just said? Haha, right you are. I'm dead tired, long day behind be and a longer in front. Reading comprehension isn't at it's highest Well, most who I've talked to, which isn't a lot, are liberal and are against the law if not for immigration. It is pretty harsh and could easily be abused. Still, I guess the problem is big enough that some action needs to be taken. Too bad it just has to be a ineffective, overly harsh one. Uh, so you support the use of illegals as cheap labour yet want them out of the country? How's that work exactly? I can assure you terrorists aren't coming to the states illegally. Hell, most of your terrorists are of domestic breed. And as I said, drugs is high risk / high gain, no matter how well guarded a fence would be it wouldn't stop the flow of drugs since there's such a huge, insanely high profit market for it. I see you're pulling numbers out of your arse again.

Seriously this kind of thinking is completely backwards. This would still leave the reason the mexicans are coming to the states: higher standard of living from low end jobs americans don't want to do. It would just make it harder and/or more expensive for the mexicans to get to the states, which would give more money to the criminal gangs who smuggle people in. You know what... I actually agree with you. Republicans want illegals for the cheap labor, Democrats for voters etc. As for the fence... it might help, but I think putting in law that are actually ENFORCED that made coming across illegally completely pointless would render the need for a fence moot. There are too many incentives for coming across illegally and things like anchor babies just increase the flood. You set the fines steep enough for employers who hire illegals and actually crack down on them, unlike the rare show raid Janet Nepalitano performed and they stop coming. My step-Grandfather spent years preparing to come here legally from Japan. The current situation is just an insult to those who came here legally. Any fence or law would be completely ineffective unless you eliminate the reason why they're coming to the states. As I said, they'd still come and farmers/cab companies and whoever would still hire them. You'd just make their lives much more difficult and possibly make criminal gangs much more powerful. The reason why politicians don't talk about the root of the problem is because they are it, their greed is it. The average americans greed is the problem. One possible solution would be making hiring illegals heavily fined and actually enforcing it. This would make Hurlshots option #1 viable and reduce illegal aliens without the need for fences.

It's pretty funny how americans complain about illegals while at the same time using them as cheap labour. Can't have it both ways, guys. Also it's funny that americans complain about the drugs while basically everyone with money and influence does them or have done them at some point. There'd be no drugs without a market and no illegal aliens without demand for cheaper workforce. Fix those and your problem solves itself. Seriously this kind of thinking is completely backwards. This would still leave the reason the mexicans are coming to the states: higher standard of living from low end jobs americans don't want to do. It would just make it harder and/or more expensive for the mexicans to get to the states, which would give more money to the criminal gangs who smuggle people in.

How exactly is that some sort of hypocrisy? Someone on death row has had a chance at life and has taken the lives of other's in, usually horrific means and would likely continue. Death penalty isn't fool proof, lots of innocent people have been executed in the states.

Hardcore or regular? IMO hardcore is more fun at this point. Alright got the keys, I'll be installing tonight.

I might be abled to get the keys from a friend who def. doesn't play anymore. I'll call him up tonight.

I'll be sure to buy this, possibly the soon to get into the beta. I love ARPG's, my favourite kind of games and the setting sounds awesome. Thanks for the heads up! Will the dungeons be randomized or static?

This is stupid because it means no more cab drivers for Texas. I also really like this one: While supporting the death penalty. Sacred indeed! :D

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/26/texas...-comes-out.html Texan GOP election platform. Full PDF here. Some choice quotes:

What Calax said. Add to that that this is a global phenomenom, not a local one.

I kind of wanna play again, but I've lost my CD's and my keys. Bummer cos this is truly the best multiplayer game ever and I revisit Diablo 2 every year or so.

I don't know if it is worse than Chernobyl, but it sure tries very hard. That's what I was thinking. Chernobyl is the worst ecological disaster ever... so far. If this thing reaches Chernobyl levels, the entire world ecology as we know it will be radically changed, probably forever. Actually from natures point of view Chernobyl was not a disaster at all. Recent studies into the flora and fauna in and around Pripyat shows that while all forms of life have high radiation, mutations are much rarer than anticipated. Life around the blast area seems to have been unaffected by radiation, which probably means that we really need to reassess our models on radiation and its affects on living oranisms. Chernobyl was more of a humanitarian disaster. This is by far the worst ecological disaster. On a more uplifting note, the top politicians of Louisiana are asking people to pray for the oil spill to magically go away since nothing they've done has helped so far. Might as well give up and put your trust on the big boss himself, huh :lol: edit: I'd say modern fishing is the worst ecological catastrophe in the making. If we keep the current pace up, in a few decades most commercially fished species will have either vanished or diminished close to extinction. This will create a huge imbalance and a void in the ecosystem and will change the ocean as we know it. Oh and then there's the huge garbage rift the size of Texas in the pacific...

I dislike the idea that mods exist to 'fix' something... but yeah, 5 days max. Preceded by a nudity mod ported from Fallout 3, most likely It's not a "fix", you just disagree with a design decision. Obviously the development team put that limitation in for a reason they thought was valid. Happens all the time, bub

Im sure there will be a mod to fix that in 3 days after release

Sorry, when was NASA bought out by Rupert Murdoch? I must have missed that. ZOG

Thanks for those posts, Krezack. Physics and astronomy are my casual hobbies at best, and having never studied either in school past the high school level all of what I know are from popular science books.