Monte Carlo

I am pleased with the generally awesome direction in which this thread is now heading.

I am planning on re-installing IWD1, KoW and TotL this weekend and playing it to death with a gimpy party. It's fabulous, capture 10% of it in Dungeon Siege III and it'll be better than the previous 2.

Please don't diss Jason Statham, the finest action movie actor of a generation.

Am happy to admit that I am a complete sucker for matching armour sets a la Diablo. I want to see some rarer weapons - exotic polearms, falchions, proper warhammers (like vicious little spiked ones) and the ability to use the severed limbs of enemies as weapons of last resort.

This thread is about tunnels, dammit. And fighting in them. Please stop being so high-falutin' and discuss the benefits of the 10'x10' room, spike traps versus poison gas clouds, statues that tell riddles, secret doors and other stuff.

I like Ramza a lot, he's a nice guy here on the forums. But seriously, Jonesing after a piece of six-year old vapourware is a waste of time. Move on, dude. :: sniffs :: Just.... let it go.

^ I would LOL if it weren't so likely, mind you it could be a Bio game. Then you'd have a mule with a ten-foot high glowing exclamation mark over it's head, a mule-themed anime Mule comic and of course the opportunity to romance the mule.

I don't know where you live, but in The Smoke if a dog is that savage a police car turns up, a copper with an MP5 gets out and slots fido.

^ Obviously Grom, it is difficult to divine your origin from your mangled syntax When I say 'proper old-skool values' I bridle at the suggestion that I am asking for the developer to adhere to a slavish notion of what is right. I'm talking about something more inchoate, I think. To wit: * A sense of humour * An understanding of the conventions of the genre (so they can be broken effectively, you cannot break a rule unless you understand it) * Fun * Elegant design These to me are old skool gaming values in this genre. They're not rules or mechanics, they are principles. Is there oil in Chicago, BTW?

Let's face it, commercially and critically Obz picking up franchises as diverse as Fallout and Dungeon Siege can't be a bad thing. Talk about a man for all seasons.

Sorry, just spent a few moments thinking about this. Dogs are domesticated animals. The owner is responsible and, in the UK, legally liable for anything that dog does (q.v. The Dangerous Dogs Act). So if Fido bites you, yes you get fined and the dog gets put down. Now, foxes, OTOH are wild animals. The comparison you make is so disingenuous it must be deliberate. In any case, dogs are by and large domesticated animals. I doubt country folk worry about the average Collie getting into a chicken coop. Foxes are annoying, fairly vicious predators. A cultural activity (which in other countries the average liberal would probably find patronizingly quaint or culturally valid) has grown up around it, a splendid confluence of community spirit and getting rid of a pest. Like I say, I'm a townie but that doesn't mean that I can't see why people would want to indulge in hunting with hounds.

I'm a townie. Foxes are vermin and they should be destroyed, with alacrity. How that is achieved is of little interest to me. The reason people like hunting with hounds, I suppose, is because it's been done for hundreds of years and people enjoy it. Why, for chrissakes, are people like you so squeamish?

The pathfinding in Firewine bridge rendered it almost unplayable, in fact a number of times I had to leave the party at the entrance and solo it with a thief sneaking about. I agree with the guy who loved the 'Escape from Candlekeep' dungeon in BG1, the one with the basilisks. It rocked.

What Llyr said +1

A game where you fight monsters in tunnels can only be a Good Thing. There's nothing like loot, dungeons and fighting. Monty Haul gaming is in the DNA of fantasy RPG'ing and I hope to see some proper old skool values in this game. This includes dungeons, tunnels, catacombs, lairs, caves... and fighting in them. Please discuss favourite fighting in tunnels moments from other games and why. Cheers MC

Rejoice, for this announcement (whatever other problems it augurs) means one thing.... TUNNELS!

You can't ranch mules, 'Tep, they're infertile. A spell to restore their potency, however, would make perfect sense in a fantasy game and could indeed in of itself be an engaging side-quest. Restore the Mule Mojo!

I'm completely serious when I say the best thing about DS1 was the Pack Mule. I loved that little fella. Now is the time to allow you to: * Up-armour the pack mule * Train the pack mule to explode, like a fiery equine IED * Allow a spell that turns the pack mule into a gimlet-eyed engine of EEEE-AW! destruction * Pet your mule for extra karma and tamagotchi-style mini-game action --- Seriously, you could be missing a trick by not using the mule to it's fullest potential.

Hawk The Slayer was good when I was fourteen, but I saw it again recently and realised that it was so-bad-it's-really-bad. Except the silly string spell effect by the wizard.

Hmmm. I'm in two minds. On one hand, the Dungeon Siege franchise is a screen-saver of the most generic fantasy setting you could imagine. Then again, Obz making a Dungeon Siege game is a little bit like asking David Simon to write an episode of TJ Hooker. So it might be quite interesting. Please, though, don't clash with a Diablo 3 release window. No more David V Goliath.

If there aren't crates then I'm not buying it.

If the film's good enough, you sort of don't notice them, just read them by default. Nikita is a good example. All the same I thought it was best to mention it, for some subs are a dealbreaker and I didn't want to waste their time. My wife has a learning disability, and reading subtitles fast is just extremely difficult for her. So there are legitimate reasons why some people avoid them. I didn't suggest that there weren't.

If the film's good enough, you sort of don't notice them, just read them by default. Nikita is a good example.

Reasonable scientists and others are challenging the hysteria and slowly de-bunking the whole thing, I suppose. What dream world do you live in? One based on open, peer-reviewed science, not astro-turfing leftist groupthink

I read Watchmen when it first came out, and although I enjoyed it, it was a long time ago. So my recollection was hazy. Anyhow, the credits were awesome. But by the time we were learning about The Joker's past it seemed a bit po-faced and, yes, over-stylized. I fell asleep, having had a long day, and woke up long after it finished. I will get round to watching it and doing it justice another time, it looked very promising but perhaps too demanding for late on a Saturday night.