Wrath of Dagon

Well, that's our problem, we love the country but we hate the government. I don't think anyone loves the EU though.

The NRA would never let that get through. They don't even let the CDC do research on anything related to gun violence. NRA said they're for keeping guns from possible terrorists, what that means in practice I don't know. I do know that all the Democrat proposals involve complete violations of due process. So now Dems are against the fifth amendment, is there any provision in the bill of rights the Dems are still in favor of? Also notice how CDC stands for "disease control" not "gun control". Of course they're doing such a bang-up job of the former may be they decided to do the latter instead. Exactly.

If they really want to keep legal guns out of hands of dangerous people, they need to forget all these vague-criteria lists and pass a law that the government can go to court and prove by preponderance of evidence someone is a risk for violence and get a court order that he not be allowed to buy guns. That would at least arguably be due process and might be ruled Constitutional.

You're right, they were commonly referred to as cults, but the government prefers terms like "non-traditional religion" https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicf79.pdf However, if a religious group advocates for the murder of the non-believers and others, it is properly termed "radical".

Those were cults, which is how they were referred to.

What conspiracy theory did I advocate?

Obola is hardly Stalin, but the psychology of trying to avoid disaster by ignoring reality is strikingly the same.

Because Obola lives in a reality of his own, and never lets facts interfere. Also known as "the narrative". Edit: This whole administration looks to me strikingly like Stalin's Soviet government just before it was invaded by Germany. The front line commanders were not allowed to make any preparations for the invasion or even talk about the possibility, as this was considered provocative and panic mongering, even though it was obvious to those commanders that Germans were preparing for an imminent invasion.

Sorry its not clear to me what the point is, can you summarize in a line or 2 ? You want me to summarize two lines in two lines? My post was in response to GD's post above, if that helps you.

https://twitter.com/20committee/status/744879005321539584

I find it a bit strange on little the pope defends his catholicism. I wouldn't believe anything a vampire Camarilla boss says. The least surprising news of the year, DNC, the press in tank for Hilzilla all along: http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-the-dnc-and-media-conned-us-into-clinton/

Yes kids, we must all practice indiscriminateness. The liberal mind explained : http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/06/18/why-liberals-support-muslims-who-hate-everything-they-stand-for-n2180270 What activity, law or behaviour previously not liked by western society should be tolerated? What is to be gained by perpetually accepting such acts? If you answer with new restaurants and interesting music then you have missed what people are being upset about. I must not be explaining myself well enough here. You can be tolerant and still have a reasonable expectation that your laws will be followed and your culture will be respected. You do not need to accept such acts, but you do not need to condemn the many for the sins of a few. You have a mentally unstable homophobic Muslim man who is the son of a Afghani immigrant (who is also pretty unstable.) He stockpiled weapons and then killed 30 people in the name of ISIS. Saying the solution to this is to condemn all Muslims is no better than those that want to ban all guns. They are both short sighted and reactionary, and ignore the vast numbers of peaceful Muslims/responsible gun owners. Islam, guns, even his use of ISIS; these are all just tools that he used to carry out a terrible tragedy. They obviously amplified his instability, and that should not be ignored. But how come no one focuses on the root of this issue? He was a crazy person. This was evident long before the shooting. He had issues in school and there were red flags throughout his life. We have a serious lack of mental health care in the US, and no one seems to be addressing it. That's my take on this. It isn't going to get better by kicking out Muslims. Yes, he's insane, and his wife is insane, and his entire family is insane. You're now scapegoating the mentally ill, how intolerant of you. http://nypost.com/2016/06/18/why-the-lone-wolf-terrorist-is-a-myth

I have a hard time making sense of this, is "Cruz-like" supposed to mean someone like Cruz or a quality Cruz has? Since I'm talking about Cruz, it's a quality Cruz has, namely to change his positions to whatever he needs to attract support. Not unusual in a politician but noticeable in someone who claims to be a man of principle.

Do Americans have a problem with Radical Christianity and what is the FBI doing to keep arms out of their hands? Thing being, of course, that if it were one of his congregation who did the shooting instead of a 2nd gen Muslim Afghan you'd have most of the people who want it to be all Radical Islam insisting it wasn't a religious issue this time and most of the people who don't want to mention Radical Islam insisting this was a religious issue, this time. No they wouldn't. If that happened the government would go after those groups the way they've gone after white supremacists in the past. There's isn't any large scale international Christian terrorist movement. People are free to shoot off their mouth all they want though.

Big reason Cruz lost the primary, although of course Cruz-like he was for it before he was against it.

WOD do you think if Trump was president institutions like the FBI would become more effective ? I find myself sometimes surprised by what you guys want from your governments. For example the NSA gets vilified for developing a system like Prism but yet people feel the government doesn't do enough to prevent terrorism ? Yes, Trump would not take advice from Islamists or pressure federal agencies to bury their heads in the sand because of PC. Please read the links I already posted before you ask any more questions. They lay out the reasons very clearly. Basically this. I have a hunch that the people protesting about the FBI not preventing this attack just have no idea what kind of resources it'd take to investigate every single person who exhibits the same warning signs as the shooter. It's not that they didn't prevent it, even if they did everything right they might not have succeeded. The problem is we know they put him on terror watch list and then removed him against all logic. Edit: If a guy is on a terror watch list and FBI gets a call he's trying to buy body armor and bulk ammo, that might make his case high priority. If it's just an average guy doing that may be FBI doesn't have time to follow up.

They could've kept him on the watch list. That way they would've been notified when he bought guns. If it started looking like he's about to launch an attack, they could've put him under surveillance. They could have an informer approach him. The idea that law enforcement can't do anything about a known terrorist until after he commits an attack is ridiculous.

FBI so blinded by PC they can't see what's right in front of their face: http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/17/has-fbis-work-been-tainted-political-correctness/#!

What would you say the flaws were? I hadn't particularly noticed.

So when someone is shot and paralyzed for life the bigger picture is that attackers got caught? Pretty low standard I'd say.

Just try to look at things objectively, that's all.

The article only talks about Juarez, not all of Mexico. Even so: "Still, the transformation seems credible, though some say it is also the result of an accord between the Sinaloa and Juárez drug cartels." "Two months after our conversation Leyzaola was shot multiple times while parked on a Juárez street, a reminder of how dangerous the city remains." "Much of what weakened Juárez remains: low-paying, dead-end jobs; street gangs and drug cartels; more billboards than trees; and proximity to a neighbor with an insatiable appetite for drugs and few controls on guns. What’s more, politicians haven’t touched the political system’s corruption and lack of accountability, which allowed small-time drug traffickers to become national security threats."

There are eye witness reports that he shouted 'Britain First' which is anti EU party in UK. Also UK don't have total ban of guns. Although reports say that he used home made gun. Apparently that claim has now been withdrawn: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/16/breaking-labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-stabbed-constituency-surgery-yorkshire/ Although we'll probably have to wait a while longer to be sure as most initial reports are wrong.

It sure sounds like you're trying to minimize that aspect of it in the following:

Maybe for the same reasons that the Russians still haven't released the rest of the deleted emails that they stole: bargaining power. Is wikileaks a front for Russian intelligence? https://20committee.com/2015/08/31/wikileaks-is-a-front-for-russian-intelligence/