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And here's the surprise. The droid you're talking about (IS-24) have VOs recorded by Obsidian! Fifty bucks say it's a placeholder.

He is also heavily influenced by Asimov's novels: going a little bat**** because of the orders he recieved conflicting with each other.

I have the same standards for everything. If you can't record excellent voice-overs then don't record them at all. No voice-acting > Bad voice-acting. And there is nothing ridiculous about my standards: Purgatorio seems to satisfy them and it's being developed by modders. I acknowledge these limitations. As I pointed out, a talanted team may overcome them. They can distinguish wine from juice just by looking though. So you've already forgotten that you were the one who dragged me into this discussion in the first place? I said that restoring M4-78 was impossible. You said that DStoneny restored it. I pointed out some stuff he obviously created from scratch, which makes his project just a mod, not a restoration in the true sense of the word. You called the mod a restoration effort, and I judged it as one. Then you suddenly started the whole drama. What gives? As for the rest of your points: I'll play this mod and post my impressions in a separate thread. Deal?

It is informed. 1. I see Master Vash at one of the screenies of the second trial. 2. I remember that there is no dialogue for her. 3. I put two and two together and suddenly realize that the modder must have written her lines all by himself. 4. The memories of modules created by writer-wannabes painfully resonate inside my head. 5. I come to a conclusion: this is just a mod, not a restoration effort Sharen claimed it to be. It means exactly that. I have no interest in mods. My original point was that restoration of M4-78 was impossible due to the lack of content to work with. That said, it may be a somewhat decent mod which makes use of art assets that didn't make into the final game, I give you that, but such things simply aren't my cup of tea.

What I am afraid of is that this mod's story is an ungodly combination of MCA's and Stoney's writing. Stuff like this rarely ends well. Plenty of things can: talent, good design, witty dialogue, twisty story, interesting characters. You got the idea. I double-checked with KotOR Tool. No diague for her in vanilla TSL. He was capable of finishing the modules and putting story together. It takes skill and deserves respect. I simply doubt his talent as a writer, which is way more important to me. Mommy, make him go away! This mean baddie has standards and doesn't like things I like! This must be the dumbest thing I've heard in a very, very long time. I'm not a modder and I will never be one, but does it reall disqualify me from judging works of others? Do sommeliers have to have their own vineyards?

Because it's just a mod. In my eyes, their quality is low by default, and I give a mod a whirl only if enough people recommend it to me. Beggars? Where? As I said, restoring M4-78 is a doomed effort. Playing with content we do have and creating a mod? Sure, something may come of it, but it isn't a restoration. I'm very picky, and modders seldom have enough talent to create something I can enjoy. Hell, 99% of so-called "professional game designers" can't do it. This particular line? Sure, but I wasn't talking about it. Vash is present in the scene and she has no written dialogue, which means she either: A. Speaks some lines written by DStoney and voiced by his girlfriend. B. Just stands there without speaking a single line. Beholding either of these options in action isn't something I would like to experience.

http://knightsoftheoldrepublic.filefront.com/file/M478;89207 There you go. I'm pretty sure there is no dialogue for Vash on Dantooine in the game files, which is the first hint on the level of quality of this mod. There is a difference between "restoring" and "making crap up using cut content as the basis". Note: I'm sure DStoney put a great deal of work and love in this project, and I respect him for this, but saying that M4-78 was restored is untrue.

Really? You mean voice-overs got recorded and missing pieces of dialogue were uncovered? Thanks, I'll check it out. Something tells me I'll find an amateurish mod that feels nowhere as professional as the rest of the game, but I'm always ready to be pleasantly surprised.

2 modded Mandalorian Disintegrators + Master Sniper Shot + Precise Shot = everything dies even faster.

Nope. Consulars get more Force powers, but they are not skill monkeys.

Restoring M4-78 isn't a good idea. We have nothing except half-finished modules, basic outline of the plot and some bits of dialogue here and there. Modders will have to finish the main story arc and write a couple of side quests themselves, and their prowess with the pen is questionable at best. Leave M4-78 rest in peace.

After reading the Butchering Pathologic series of articles at RPS I felt an urge to replay this gem again. The game can be harsh to the player at times, but because of it Pathologic is one of the most rewarding games I've ever played. Not sure if I can recommend it to anyone here, however, since I heard that the English translation from Russian was atrocious, which is a major issue for such a story-heavy (And how awesome the story is!) game. Check my favorite from it I uploaded on YouTube if you are interested: the scene just oozes atmosphere and style.

Obsidian tried it, yes. A ranger with no respect for nature, a stalking druidess, a bard everyone hates listening to, a sorceress who has almost zero control over her passions and powers - good ideas are all over the place, but the quirks just don't get enough screentime and end up being easily forgettable. Such a shame, really.

The idea of a dwarf who wants to become a monk because he loves tavern brawls is awesome on many levels, I agree with that. The execution could have been better, however, since all we've got is generic tale of an outcast who finally finds the meaning of honor and reunites with his clan. Boring. So much wasted potential. That said, I *like* the companions in the OC - and the campaign itself, for that matter - but they certainly are a long way from being something more than generic stereotypes.

Indeed. What NWN 2 OC had was a band of stock characters. Excellent voice-acting though.

GameShark Shacknews Joystiq Kotaku IGN Destructoid 1UP Gamespot Team Xbox GameSpy Games Radar All of them are full of all kinds of PR nonsense and quite amusing to read. Here is my personal favorite, courtesy of Destructoid: Stupid is a better word.

Man, that's a tough call. Like picking your favorite children. So in no particular order: Psychonauts Quest for Glory 4 Fallout Arcanum Torment Bloodlines Grim Fandango KotOR 2 Monkey Island 2 Civilization 4 EDIT: Looks like I forgot how to count. Added Civ 4 to the list.

I hope the fellow who has animated unarmed fighting in KotOR 2 is still aboard. Those animations were great.

Why, I believe Obsidian have just found a proofreader.

The game has an auto-updater.

1.10, AFAIK.

The bit about Russia being full of hawt chicks is true.

Pretty close. Basically, RPGs, in my opinion, are about creating and fleshing out your character through skills selection and in-game choices. You certainly can roll a character who has nothing to do with your own personality, but players tend to gravitate towards characters who mirror their own world outlook, especially on the first playthrough. It's actually pretty tricky to give a definition to role-playing, but I hope you get the basic idea.

Moscow is mentioned in the article. Please, guys, don't portray Russia as a country where everyone wears ushanka, valenki and trench coat, plays balalaika and drinks vodka in their spare time, and where polar bears roam the streets. Really, films and games that feature Russia and are meant to be taken seriously tend to look pretty pythonesque in these parts. The bottom line: do some research and don't enforce stereotypes.

Look out behind you, xard! Look behind you!