Kyp Torvyn

go to youtube and watch the video of the new ps3 star wars coming out. One of those videos was a group made it look like it was being played on a wii. Looked like a pretty good idea.

Well is it completely off topic we are discussing star wars baddies.

No not that the Darth title isn't used but even like during Kaan and the Brotherhood of Darkness where the title was banned, many Sith gave up their real names for replacements much like Des became Bane. I guess just the most important of Sith took names with meaning.

Basically In the first room choose either left or right, then make your way center. then Head up. Keep trying to get as North as possible.

No question the Falcon. The Falcon is just a piece of art. Speed, Nostalgia, and Maneuverability. The EBon hawk is simply a less advanced version basically. Everything about the Hawk is better. Plus I could be Han Solo!!!! Now if I had to choose any vessel, I would pilot a modified Leviathan Class/ Phindian Syndicate Battleship/Star Destroyer hybrid. Not really pilot but command. If the US navy had Star Destroyers I would be in!!!

I am not suggesting changing anything, just ensure the story follows a logical path that can be pieced together and the end, while not being the same ending either way still ends this tale and closes it for good, and where the History books can simply say something like the True Sith receded and disappeared. Whether, you are one or destroyed them is to question.

Vader I believe is father not invader. Most resources I have researched this on point toward that, though I cant be sure. Nihilus= Nihilism= Feeling of nothingness I believe or something to the extent. But what about people like Markos Ragnos and Naga Sadow and Kaan. WHy so many exceptions???

Dark Side. Loved the game play, yet the story began to lack the true essence of A star wars tale. Not because of it being DS because books like Darth Vader Dark Lord Rising or whatever the title was and Darth Bane Path of destruction do this type of tale nicely. I don't know but both ways the Light Side story is more fulfilling but not the game play.

Count Dooku is so a Darth. Every Dark Lord hands over their past names for their new selves, examples Anakin is Vader, Des is Bane, Palpatine is Sidious, and in this case Dooku is Tyrnaus. Darth Tyranus. His name invokes the feeling if tyrant much like other dark lord names have hidden meanings.

The Republic that survived the KOTOR incidents is the same as the one in Bane's time. WHy? They reference acts and such passed after the Revan and Malak Incident. The Sith are known for thousand year spurts of disappearances and the Republic in those periods tends to stay stable. And the game would not just have to have the canon endings stories. Their are ways to incorporate storylines that follow the the false storylines of non-canonical paths. Just like in the former ones, that does not stop that fact that one storyline is officially chosen to be the canon story.

Back toward the people a fe3w pages back, your character can be a son or a daughter. In the star Wars Time line only certain scenarios make sense. Whether Revan was a guy or a girl or the exile doesnt matter too much. But it is obvious that in both situations the Light side was the victor. Why Malachor is destroyed in all later Star Wars things. The Sith do not attack again for another 3000 years under Kaan and the brotherhood of Darkness. A finale with Republic retaking Korriban makes sense since in Darth Bane Path of Destruction the Sith home world is retaken from the Republic in the prologue. Star Wars has a history. Canonical choices must be made, or the whole history is stopped in it's tracks. The main story idea is what I want to Convey the characters can be altered changed or removed, but what happens then has to be finished, than after this game the senate can pass the Sith outlaw acts and seal the deal until another 3000 years. Canonical things must be made. If in the beginning such a key and important story wasn't chosen as the theme I would agree with you, but this trilogy is what sets up the Republic and forges the future.

So as female you get the Disciple instead of Handmaiden??? Never knew that, looks like I have to play through the game once again.

yes one of the disappointments I had from KOTOR I to II

Star Trek. Interesting show. But I must stand by my Star Wars. Why well if either was able to come alive I would rather the Enterprise Attacking me than a fleet of Star Destroyers. Atton is Atton guys, let us just put to to rest the connections between Atton and Okona. never know what the implications of your statements may lead to, maybe intergalactic war!?!?!?!

I am a philosophical person. I could and sometime will put an official response to why the Dark Side is no better or worse than the Light Side, but for now, I will say. Dark side fun, Jedi boring. The answer is simple people. Fun doesn't equal evil.

My only explanation is trickery. A Sith tactic to break Bastilla, and scare Jedi into falling. He had to know the Enclave was their, he had trained their and recruited for the war their. Another possibility wast hat the Jedi momentarily left the planet to hide elsewhere their secret enclave before moving back. Doubtful though. My guess is possibly a simple mistake in the writing team. Despite this infraction, It is easy for the game player to still hypothesize numerous possibilities.

Anakin is the Chosen One. Revan though awesome, and me a personal fan-boy of him, simply never had the power Anakin did. Revan was skilled because of military tactics and charisma, not necessarily the force. Anakin was truly powerful because of the force. he fulfilled what the prophecy said in many ways. When he turned to the darkside, he brought balance to himself knowing both paths. He brought balance to the galaxy by causing equilibrium in Sith power and jedi Numbers. By killing Sidious and himself, he sealed the galaxy in balance. Balance does not mean peace, it means the act of having an equality on two sides, light and darkside. Plus Anakin is cool as well. he is a much better character in writing and reading than in watching. TO understand what he thinks and feels makes him cool. Guess I am a Anakin Fanboy too.

I believe the two go hand in hand. The stories intertwine and one could not be with the other. Yet in overall KOTOR One was better because it was the first of it's kind. the second may have improved in game play, and thickened the plot line, but it doesn't hold the same nostalgia the first one held. Now don't get me wrong they both stir all kinds of good emotions in me and I thoroughly enjoy both, I just seem to hold myself closer to the first. One reason this could be is that on historical Star Wars time line, KOTOR I is easier to plot and track. KOTOR II as is is more hearsay. KOTOR III will decide where KOTOR II willl fit, and hopefully end the trilogy. then KOTOR could come out with a totally new trilogy.

KOTOR III: The Dark Tides Picture this, the exile, having chosen the path of Revan, took Kreia's advice disbanding his/her party. Following the instincts and disturbances of the force, the exile departs from his comrades entering the shroud of darkness covering the Unknown Regions. Under the influence of Atton, the Hand Maiden, Visas, and Bastilla Shan, a New Jedi Council is resurrected. Aiding the stabilizing yet suffering republic, the New Jedi set out to rebuild the Jedi Order. 15 years after the Malachor Five destruction, a young Jedi, from unknown origins begins to suffer from prophetic dreams, showing much destruction and darkness on the horizon. From the planet of Coruscant the Dreams are vague yet grow stronger with every passing hour. Bastilla seeing the possibility of what such nightmares could with hold, takes the padawan, at age of 21, old for his position, as her apprentice. Departing for Dantooine, after basic training is complete, The Master and Apprentice study the arts, developing his connection to the force and finding an old friend, Atton who joins the crusade to get to the bottom of the seers visions. Just as plans to depart are finished, the young seer (you) has another vision, this time revealing a dark figure poised to attack Bastion. Bastilla and Atton immediately plan departure taking you with them to investigate the disturbance. Once their, the vessel is ambushed by a flotilla of planetary defenders and forced to crash on the planet. It is here that they search for their way off the dark world and discover a plot of succession from the republic spilling through the planets populace. Tracking down the source with the help of yet another old friend, Mira, the party discovers a dark and troubling culprit. Their source tells that the name of their propagandist is Revan. Just as the culprit is named the "True Sith" Attack nearly decimating the planet. Luckily Bastilla covertly had Admiral Carth Onasi and the entire republic navy following at a staging distance. Fighting along side the Republic the Sith Warships are pushed back yet not without great losses. Granting the party the rights to HK 47 and T3, Carth hopes their aide will lead the republic to the Exile and Revan who they believe to be the enemy now. Bastilla is gravely suspicious and hurt by the discovery on Bastion. Taking the growing party from the world, the Seer has yet another vision, this time of the same dark figure strangling a serious of people who he believes to represent a series of worlds and turning them against himself. Now the journey becomes open ended as the party travels through a series of worlds looking for clues to the Sith whereabouts and the succession that distills throughout the Republic outer planets. The planets and people found are Miraluka- young Miralukan Girl Torza: Rhen Var- Spacer Team Kyp Torvyn and Rodian Twitch: Bespin- Bounty Hunter Johbonsun Fett; Mandalore- Mandalore Canderous Ordo (recruits Fett): Taris Restoration- Mission Vao; Onderon/Dxun- Hand Maiden. Across these worlds you either thwart or fuel the dark thoughts of rebellion falling into the dark of embracing the light. Slowly the dreams become more and more vivid, as you re-assemble a journey secretly taken years before by the Exile during exile. Combining the information of the party members, knowledge of revans journey and the exiles journey, a call whispers from three worlds Myrkyr, Yavin IV, and Korriban. Searching the dark worlds for clues an ancient SIth Empire begins to unravel before their eyes. Korriban having to be the last of the planets to search reveals a dark holocron from one known as king Adas of long ago. Taking the information, the party prepares to leave, yet are ambushed by a massive Sith force. Captured aboard what looks like the Leviathin Malak and Revans old warship the party perform a daring escape, discovering a new secret as what is believed to be Revan attacks the Seer and Bastilla. That secret being that the seer is truly the son or daughter of Revan and Bastilla.Carth Onasi and the Republic Fleet Quickly fly in to provide cover allowing for a full escape. The Sith resettle Korriban. Heading Ziost a the planet revealed to them in the holocron the Seer and the party discover the remains of an ancient civilization. It turns out to be the once stronghold of King Adas the ruler of a band of sith species and dark jedi. On this world you find the crashed Ebon Hawk, and another familiar face the Exile. He explains that he had fought with Revan for the last five years after searching long and hard for him, yet they were separated recently, and he crashed here after Sith ambush. He joins the party pointing them in the direction of an uncharted unnamed planet in the unknown Regions where he last saw Revan. Here the Seer infiltrates an ancient and mysterious academy as a fake Sith. It is here your decisions truly reflect the end of the game either truly finish your path into Sithdom, or find your way to the top where you face one of the Sith Lords and either take his title or cast the dark side into the light. Here you also discover the beaten and battered Revan who discover never fell to the True Sith but was simply captured by their Sith OverLord Darth Vaalor. Joining the Party Revan apologizes for leaving all his comrades and scolds them for following him. Carth then informs the party via transmitter that the Sith have massed a massive force upon Korriban, including the SIth who were in their second civil war. Planning a grand assault of the Planet your party acts as a Vanguard of the attack. Entering Dareshdae you fight your way through the ruins and temples and tombs along side Jedi forces led by Visas, and the other Jedi Masters. Above the Republic Armada engages the phenomenally large Sith Force, eventually you face the Dark Overlord himself and destroy him either taking his position or casting the Sith Empire back into the unknown regions. However in a turn of events the old nemeses Nihilus appears before the thought victorious party. A Battle then ensues as you discover he was truly a betrayal above even that of Kreia's. In this battle many of your party will die. Most by sacrifice. Eventually through the combined strength of the Seer, the Exile, Revan , and Bastilla Nihilus is defeated. As he dies you have the choices before you, take his power learn what you can from him and turn on your allies, or let the force have of him what it will, and stay with the light side. Those that survive follow the Sith empire into the unknown regions never to be heard from again. Dark or light the Empire recedes back into the darkness succeeds their goal, ensuring the taint of the dark side always remains in the galaxy. The true Sith are discovered to be the darkness within the heart and thus themselves. (If Revan was a woman in your game then Bastilla will train you and after Dantooine she will leave your party replacing her with Carth. Bastilla will then act as the military support instead. Though if it were me Canonically Revan is a guy and it should be made canonical fact.) The End... So like it??? I Know that story lines usually will be looked over but this is just an Idea I developed and sorta wanted to throw out their to stir some discussion.