Judge Hades

They have done other divisions for starting tribes like men versus women.

Okay, I am not a reality television person but the new Survivor has ome major controversy to it. For those who aren't in the know they separated four tribes of five based on race; African, Asian, Hispanic, and Caucasion. General Motors has already pulled sponsorship of the show and perhaps more to follow. I think people are just overreacting. I am sure next time they are going to set it up based on religious divisions, but maybe that would be too close to reality for them.

Yes, itis the wise thing to do... I am going to pre-order it. Proabably closer to the release date though.

I am really on the fence. Part of me wants to get the LE the day it comes out so I will need to pre-order it to reserve my copy and another part me is saying to wait 3 to 6 months after release.

Wow, not even I have pre-ordered the game. Sargie, are you well?

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Its not a genetic defect. It just is.

oooooooooooo, I want to comment so bad another topic Hades, another topic..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sure, another topic, but the majority of us humans have some form of spiritual belief and faith.

So?

I did answer your question. Isn't that the point?

Especially when the norm for human society and civilization is to have belief and/or faith in a higher being.

And if its a one night stand?

Well, yeah. I agree with that. Marriages should be a church only affair anyway. Church and State, gotta keep them separated.

That I can agree with, Dark Moth. The issue of abortion wouldn't even exist, for the most part, if the couple practiced abstinence or contraceptives.

The first sentence of that paragraph did.

That is sad because I do like our arguments. I know we bump heads a lot on many many many issues but that is one of the reasons why I like you. As a friend. Just wanted to make that clear. As a friend. Alan, it should. Then again if a man wants to have the kid and the woman doesn't it should still be the woman's final call. Of course this call should be made before the end of the first trimester. Late term abortions is a much greyer issue with me and if you are going to carry the kid 6 to 8 months already you should just plop the kid out and place him or her for adoption. Also for those who are 17 years or younger the parents need to be involved because an abortion, for the most part, is a surgical procedure and all surgical procedures need to be told tot he parent/guardian of the minor.

I think that a person's sexuality should not determine what rights he or she has. A person should have the right to marry to his oer her significant other regardless of their gender. Sexual orientation should not be used to discriminate against others. Discrimination should not be acceptable, period.

You are assuming that the couple are married, Dark Moth. That is kind of cute. You know, you can have kids out of wedlock. In fact most unwanted pregnancies, may it be unwanted by the man or woman, happen out of wedlock.

That is a very good point, Steve. If the father wants the abortion but the woman does not, who has the final say? I say the woman. Dark Moth, what say you?

He has the right to have as much say as the woman allows, which can be none at all or a whole lot. Depends on the owman and how she feels. Also thinking that the community here is an good indicator of human civilization is a fallacy of itself.

I think the process of creation is meaningless to the hardship of actually carrying a child to term, Dark Moth. Because, like me, you find arguing fun. Okay that is an assumption but I'm having fun discussing this. I think that our major difference of opinion here is that you believe that the man would stick around show some responsibility while I do not. This could be because of difference our own familial background. Such as my father did in fact cut and run while, again this is an assumption, that your's did not. This is why it should be handled by a case by case basis because not every situation will be as you describe it nor how I describe it. That is why we need freedom of choice to so that a solution can be as fluidic to handle as many scenerios as possible.

Does the man carry it for the nine months? No. Does the man give birth to the child? No. Therefore the man has no say. Change both those two factors then, and only then should a man have a say.

Everything is a guess at this point.

Dark Moth, that is the ideal but we don't live in an ideal world and it is rather naive of you to think so. Yes a relationship is often supposed to be a give-take/compromise affair but more often than not its just Take Take Take.

Oh, all of a sudden the ignore function doesn't work?