Darth Nuke

You must really have a lack of Star Wars knowledge. Boba was never a space cop, he had a Slave 2 that was a police vehicle. He and 212 MAndalorian warriors are Protectors of the world known as Mandalore. This happened during the Clone Wars, and is still continuity. Corusant is 25 thousand years old. You making something out of the line, "I will not let this Republic that stood for a 1000 years." Already fixed. After the Sith War between the army of light and darkness the Galaxy and republic were messes up. A new republic was born and it was we see a 1000 years later. So there is continuity, everything is EU besides the movies. The Valley of the Dark Lords is the same in TOTJ as it is 4000 years later. So the Valley is just wrong. There is no continuity with that Valley. The Valley of the Darklords is establised in TOTJ and JA, KOTOR didn't make the cut.

Yet it's all continuity

See the point is with continuity you can do what you want with anything except established continuity. The Valley is established continuity, it has a certain look. The way Mara Jade looks is established, she isn't blond she a red head. When you have an established part of continuity like the Valley, you do not change it.

Point is everyone this Valley of the Dark Lords in KOTOR, is wrong. It's not apart of continuity.

The other way around.

Right, that's why they asked the devs if the game would have references and elements of the EU...considering it is the EU already right? Believe whatever you want; the Vong invaded the galaxy, the Force is something that can be forgotten or ripped from someone, the Republic is 25K years old, the Sith were an Empire-like military, there's such a place as the Valley of the Jedi where the Force can be injected into people like adrenalin, Luke chose Yavin to build his Academy, there have been 300 clones of multiple villains, planets can be moved with repulsor lifts, and no one can think outside the box and make anything their own because everything in the EU is established canon that can't be changed for any reason whatsoever, oh yeah Boba Fett is also alive and well after his digestive adventure. There's hardly any point in continuing to debate something like this, according to you you're right and there's no possibility for any other point of view. Like I said I'm sorry you don't like Korriban in KotOR, live with it or don't, the choice is yours. When Feb rolls around the corner I very much will enjoy continuing to explore KotOR's Korriban, frankly I'm estatic it is one of the two returning worlds from the original, as Korriban was my favorite. And in case you're wondering I also liked the look of the Valley in JA, my fave level in that game, but I like variety. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, and it's all continuity. Bioware did make it's own story it's own enviroments, it's own planets. But when something like the Valley of the Dark lords is established in continuity like it is, then it shouldn't be changed. You can not do that. JA proved that the Valley stayed the way it, TOTJ proved it was wrong, and KOTOR proved it was the wrong Valley.

Yes, just Sadow isn't in it.

They should have kept Marka Ragnos tomb as MarkO Ragno's tomb, so he can have his brother in this Valley, while he's in the RIGHT Valley.

Then they should put an In-Universe explaination for the reason the Valley is like this. Mostly the reason it isn't the Valley. I want to see what Obsidian comes up with, and how they are gonna get Marka Ragnos out of this Valley in EU fashion, because he cannot be there.

We all know Sadow ain't there. So it is a Memorial. Sadow in fact is one of the Sith Lords that's MIA.

KOTOR 2 is Exspanded Universe. All Star Wasr is EU except the movies. Games comics and Novesl are EU. That's it. the Valley is wrong.

I just want to speak to someone from Obsidian or Bioware, and ask them why this Valley continuies to look this way? IT's wrong. I also want to know if they have put an in-universe expalaination for this wrong Valley.

WEll then Master Uthar must be renovating another Valley, becuase the one in TOTJ stays mostly the same for 4000 years.

nah id prefer it if you carried on ranting, it makes the thread much more interestin if there is a debate goen on (are you nur sab or sumthin cos he hasnt posted for AGES and you seem to be carryin on his work??) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not sab I just know when there's a big continuity mistake, and this Valley is it. This is my only complain because there is nothing else wrong in continuity with KOTOR, that can't be over looked. Oh and for a person with enough SW knowledge, this Vallye can't be over looked.

Ah yes. No novel has incorporated KOTOR as continuity, but neither has Jedi Outcast. You seem to not understand how continuity works. All things, games,comics,novels are continuity. Oh and I was wrong, KOTOR has gotten it's first mention in EU material. A RAKATAN TEMPLE was in issue 68 of Republic. So KOTOR is continuity. The Wookie world of Kashyyk in ROTS takes place on the shore. AS you go deeper into Kaskyyk it gets darker on the ground as the trees get bigger. Continuity by friend. Also Rebel Commando has portrayed Kashyyk as it should be under knowing of ROTS Kaskyyk, yet they represent the Shadow lands in a EU format. So the Valley is Just Wrong in KOTOR. Everything else has been fixed. FIND me an explaination to this valley in continuity, and I'll shut up. Til then this Valley is just wrong.

Yet all are continuity.

Might have to do that

Funny how the Valley was in pretty good shape in JA after 4000 years. Not great shape, but no blast holes in walls. OF course this isn't the Valley so it doesn't matter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah, like Exar Kun and the Sith temples on Yavin 4, the Disciples of Marka Ragnos were busy restoring it to its previous glory. And the backdoor was a joke. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Highly doubtful that a small group of misfits were restoring a Valley to it's glory. They aren't builders. That Valley is the Valley of the Dark Lords as it should be, KOTOR's version is WRONG.

Funny how the Valley was in pretty good shape in JA after 4000 years. Not great shape, but no blast holes in walls. OF course this isn't the Valley so it doesn't matter.

If it's wrong Obsidian should try to fix it. This is a continuity mistake to Star Wars. And it's no back door, please.

you seem to forget that now the Second Sith War is continuity. Everything in Star Wars is continuity unless it has an infinites label on it. So there is a Malak a Revan, A Sion. See Reven Solfware didn't take their own approach they did the Valley the way ti was supposed to look. Bioware did not do that, therefore created a Continuity mistake for itself. Most can be fixed, this one can't. This Valley isn't the Valley of the Dark lords. The guy who made the Valley said it himself that he made a mistake in not doing research on the Valley. So he know of the mistake.

All mistakes are fixed in Star Wars. Obi-Wan was trained by Yoda as a child, as he grew he went to Qui-Gon. See fixed. This Valley can't be fixed.

If Obsidian or Bioware would prove in a continuity formate that in the game, this Valley isn't ther real Valley but a different VOTDL, then that's fine. But you have to take Marka Rango and Sadow out.

u complain about continuity but think of the continuity of KOTOR if they changed the valley that drastically. it would make fans mad because its so different from the original the game its a SEQUEL to. and i like the other valley better but i cant change and i wouldnt want it changed now that its the way it is. and dont get mad at Obsidian for the valley Bioware made it that way not them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They'll have to live with it, they have to live with there other character only making cameo's they have deal with a right Valley of the Dark Lords. The Valley is wrong, that's all there is to it.

No way a Valley that looks the same in TOTJ and 4000 years later in JA somehow turned into the Valley in KOTOR. No way. The Valley of the Dark Lords is not located on a cliff, it's in a canyon. The Tombs are not two big building. They are many tombs each given to one Dark Lord embedded in the canyon walls. No way Marka Ragnos went from one tomb in TOTJ to a different one in KOTOR, to the TOTJ one 4000 years later. Don't happen. So the Valley wasn't buried in the sand, it's just wrong. And I really don't know if I had an effect onf the PC version. Yet I will say that I was the only one to make the complaint, then I got supporters, then somehow some way Bioware decided to seperate the tombs in the PC version like continuity says they were. Of course teh valley was still wrong.