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Hillary's fortunate that there was a modern Chelsea's apartment nearby with the latest in medical equipment and staff when she collapsed. If not, she might have been driven to a hospital and that's the last thing you want to do when a 68 year old woman collapses and is carried, literally with her feet dragging on the ground, into a waiting vehicle.

This dude agrees: If only there were a button for lurve. Instead, I had to quote.

Well, Calax my good man, don't run yourself down. Be it what it would, it's sometimes hard to see big picture problems when the problems in your little picture are all consuming. Do you think every peasant in the medieval times was concerned when his feudal overlord was defeated in battle? It had an impact on his life, but if the crops didn't come in it might not matter who took over the fiefdom, no? Perhaps you had concerns in your own life that overshadowed the big picture. You live in the world that the events have made, but maybe those events aren't always as important to your personal life as events that are more personal. Then again, maybe it's just been a long day and I'm overdue for a meal. Or maybe I saw that written on the wall in the loo.

Whatever else you say about the two, they're ardent campaigners. Trump's trip down to Mexico spur of the moment only to turn around for a policy speech on immigration demonstrates his energy on the trail. See here, I know some people hate either one or both of these so much a bloke can't say nothing positive, but for two geezers they do pretty well. Hillary doesn't have as much energy maybe, but considering her health is clearly more of an issue, she gets the tip of the hat.

To be fair to Clinton and her doctor, they undoubtedly don't consult every single day and it would be a sure sign of something amiss if they did. She might be rich but does she dish the quid to have her doctor retained personally and travel in her entourage? If she does, then clearly she is having more health issues than she owned.

Prefer turn based combat, but it can get tedious. Plus, lack of patient in my dotage. In Mordheim, I just go hang out on the interwebs and listen to stuff. Can't entirely blame the game. I set up redoubts and wait a lot. If you play the patience game, you can't complain about the need to wait.

Probably the most surprise I've had from a post here. Wut indeed!

Doesn't pass the smell taste, mate, but then again, you have a point. When was there not something sketchy happening with any missile defense plan?

don't doubt you, man, but if that's the case, why not say it directly to the mic instead of having it caught on a hot mic by accident?

Hmmm, looks like a weird Hitman Blood Money game. Interest piqued. Blood Money was an excellent game. I think of it as the pinnacle of the Hitman series, but I haven't played the latest one yet. To get the best scores, you had to make everything look like an accident. The riverboat scenario was a brute! I've never played Thief, but I've thought about it. Have to see if I can get it on the cheap at GoG or Steam. I'll try the second first like you lot suggest.

Man might be crazy, but at least he speaks his madness to the mic on purpose. Remember Hillary Clinton's reset? Spose it worked out well for her after all? Course, the New York times is a bastion of right wingers, yes? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0 Remember Obama's open mic to Medvedev? Trump should be ridiculed for his statements, but at least their out in the open. Would prefer the madness made known to the world than the corruption cryptically hidden from the public.

Point would be in my opinion that some conspiracy theories are substantiated, but those are no longer theories. Don't believe in conspiracy theories, altho I might be willing to look into the theory of a conspiracy and, once substantiated, have no problem believing cold hard evidence. Don't blame people for not having strong feelings about September 11. Hits some people harder than others. Wasn't the loss of life or tragedy that hit, tho. That was bad and everyone should feel something for the lot of them, but it was witnessing the world changing. What we all knew, wherever we were, was going to be turned around in one way or another. Whether you felt for the people in New York or not, whether you feel anything about the day after all this time or not, the event impacted your life nonetheless.

I do feel for her. Don't wish ill health on anyone. Don't trust her and she's a s crooked as a dog's hind leg and less flexible, but I do wish her health.

Been thinking of this one. It's the old title from like 20 years ago, right? I loved Blood Money. How does it compare?

You guys need Khaine. Might be bloody, but the trains will run on time. Plus, he's the VP candidate.

Guys to be honest none of you have ever worried about her health before, now this attention seems false She is fine, she has a very good doctor and if she really was sick and couldn't run she wouldn't Just having a bit of fun. As a practical matter, in a detached observation, seems HRC does have some health issues lingering. Extent and severity can't be determined by video observation, but she does not appear to be a well woman. Furthermore, her health is not the real issue. The fact that she demonstrably untrustworthy makes her assertions about her health look like more subterfuge, even if she's telling the truth now. Her health makes her trustworthiness question more relevant.

They're here, just invisible because damned dudes are deplorable. A whole basket of them.

I think I'm too much in a pint right now to do my response justice. I'll quit the field and leave it to you, mate. Just for now, mind you. Later, I might switch from bitter to whiskey, and it always brings out the fire in me.

You've rarely if ever met someone with a thicker skin than me and I never took it personally. It is odd to see the way the world has changed since September 11. Not joking, now mind you. Seriously, the world is different. It wasn't just the Americans who felt it. It was fairly everyone. It's strange to realize how much I've personally changed as a result. I mean, I still go to bed at night and still have a love of fish and chips and a pint of bitter. Don't get me wrong. You can't go around thinking about these dark things all the hours of the day. Still look back from time to time and it strikes you. Then you take another sip and talk computer games again. What else is a man to do?

Yes. Well. Here I am arguing with you elsewhere and you do such a heartfelt post. I'd invite you to tea sometime, but I insist you leave your dog at home. Aw hell, bring the little fellow also why not?

Choose your facts carefully. Sure you're the voice of experience. You've got the inside kith on these things, BruceVC. You're in the know. However, by 2011 the Iraqis already knew the Americans were gone. The US had the watches, as they say, and they had the time. The people who wanted The Coalition to stay had faded into the shadows for self preservation. But, even assuming that the country hadn't been by and large pacified after the surge years earlier? What if? Did we expect that things were going to be easy always because the coalition had made them easier temporarily? Did the west think that the best way to recoup their losses was to cut and run? Nothing emboldens the bad guys more than the good guys saying they've already given up. The bad guys made some of those attacks you cite solely to reassert what the future held when the allies were inevitably destined to quit the field. You can keep talking bout historical facts, and I'm sure some people would blame you for cherry picking those facts if you were a dread right winger, but I don't care about individual facts when the pattern is made from whole cloth. Did those attacks become worse or better after the US left? You have a narrative, and that's all well and good, but your facts that you choose so carefully are part of a larger fact pattern that defies your assessment. Sorry, mate, but you've got it wrong. It's like some scientist bloke said a long time ago, "a man may imagine things that are false, but he can only understand things that are true, for if the things be false, the apprehension of them is not understanding." You don't know, BruceVC. You're just hearing your dog talk to you. Undoubtedly many will agree with you, but you cannot convince someone who already believes as you do for if he already believes, the statement of agreement is not persuasion.

I sense you're a decent bloke, but when you say things it's like my mate told me that his dog started talking to him. It's funny and all, but the question of what his dog is telling him to do always swims around the back of your mind. Would never suggest that Iraq was entirely pacified, but your scenario is... bullocks. You've the faith of the believer and I never argue religion, especially with a mate whose God is a talking dog. Don't want his dog speaking gainst me.

Iraq had been by and large pacified to a greater degree by the time the US withdrew. At that point, assuming that the US could negotiate a reasonable SOFA, the upkeep would have been not much if any more than any number of bases around the world. The US paid for an allied nation that could provide an excellent base of operation in the region. A much better located base of operations than any other nation in the area. The US paid that price in treasure and blood. Then, rather than push for a SOFA that would have taken advantage of the payment they already made, Obama abandoned it. There was a choice, regardless of what people want to assert now. Even if the SOFA negotiations had failed, clearly they were not pursued with all. There are no long term goals for the American public now and there haven't been any long term goals for most other western countries for a long time. If, might be when, the US has to go into the region to fight another ground war, and takes with them a sizeable coalition, it will be clear that defending the gains in Iraq would have cost much less than doing it all over again. The assumption that if the US simply doesn't ruffle feathers that it will all sort itself out isn't merely naïve. It's foolish and dangerous. The US could have created an ally in the region. They failed for lack of will and no one else even had the stomach to try.

Excellent point, mate. Course, might be you shouldn't give up after a few months either, or a few years. US is still in Afghanistan and quit Iraq. Seems arseways to me. Iraq could've been won with the long view and is worth more if it is.

The US has military stationed in Iraq. Wait, boots on the ground? See it now. You're so much a fan of Clinton you've adopted her variety of double-speak. Technically speaking, some of the supplies sent to Iraq are actual boots. (adopting the persona of Clinton) Since those boots were provided by the United States and were left behind and some of those left behind boots were taken up by Iraqis and are on the ground, the United States has boots on the ground. The clever double speak technicalities that formerly served the Clintons so well only serves to indict them in later times.