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That's simply an absurd, subjective and arbitrary place to draw the line between what is allowed and what isn't. What counts explored or deconstructed to you? To me? To someone on twitter looking for more followers? Unless you buy their story about missing it during the vetting (Just as they missed the gamebanshee.com advertisement and the numerous other not-lore-friendly) then they clearly thought it fit the "tone" of their game until a twitter dust-up - the only reason it's out now is to avoid offending the sensibilities of some people and that's censorship anyway you cut it. I dunno, but I think that a one-off limerick doesn't make the cut, and Obsidian agrees. Yeah, we know this, the question is why, and the only answer you or Obsidian seem interesting in giving is "someone was offended" and that just doesn't seem like the response of someone who has thought much about the issue.

That's simply an absurd, subjective and arbitrary place to draw the line between what is allowed and what isn't. What counts explored or deconstructed to you? To me? To someone on twitter looking for more followers? Unless you buy their story about missing it during the vetting (Just as they missed the gamebanshee.com advertisement and the numerous other not-lore-friendly) then they clearly thought it fit the "tone" of their game until a twitter dust-up - the only reason it's out now is to avoid offending the sensibilities of some people and that's censorship anyway you cut it.

What you said is in direct contrast to reality. "So one thing that, um, I really appreciate about Kickstarter is that its sorta given the game development community, um, more options in terms of what content it can produce. What sort of game ideas you can bring to the table, and the fact that it doesn't really have the publisher model involved but we're actually being financed directly by they players, who, we answer to anyway and I'd rather have them as the bosses. Um, that's sorta been a very new way of doing games that's been very, very exciting." - Chris Avellone, Pillars of Eternity Kickstarter video Well, here's the problem with the idea that the backers are bosses: we both bought the game (I'm assuming you did even though you lack a visible backer badge, else why are you here?) so we're BOTH his bosses, right? I think Obsidian made the right choice, you think they made the wrong choice. So we cancel out. Now, unless you think Obsidian should make all future decisions by Backer Committee (and what a cluster THAT would be!) we'll probably just have to agree that Obsidian is a private company that will do what it thinks is best for itself and its consumer, regardless of our individual opinions. WE AREN'T SPECIAL WE JUST BOUGHT A VIDEO GAME. Honestly no one should listen to us because we clearly waste our money on frivolous nonsense. So I'll use your own example to discredit you so you can more easily process it. The hardest truths are often the most difficult to swallow: With your example, all backers are bosses, I went back to the first post of this thread and read to the end. I wrote down who was strongly against, didn't care so they remained neutral, and who were the opposite by being strongly supportive of the change to the memorial stone. 25 bosses felt strongly enough about the change to express their disappointment in the change. 9 of the bosses remained neutral, not caring either way. And 8 bosses were strongly supportive of the change. In any democracy, or any boardroom as your example indicates this change would've never happened in the first place. The offended are the minority, they aren't even eclipsing the neutral party who have no feeling either way on the subject. They're dwarfed by the majority, yet the majority is expected to acquiesce? They aren't entitled to their criticism without their criticism being criticized? The joke was a joke and all jokes come from the same place. Good jokes and bad jokes are born from the same womb. Just because it was in your opinion a "bad" joke doesn't mean he didn't have the right to attempt to be funny, and that definitely doesn't mean that you have the right to censor him because what they said in the pursuit of being funny was personally offensive to you. I wasn't offended by the limerick. But when someone else said they were, I thought to myself "Oh, they're offended. I personally am not, but I can't discount their personal views on the subject. So the poem in question should probably be changed." I'm a member of the majority who joins with the minority to make the change happen without having any personal stake. There are a lot of us, we just don't tend to be as loudmouthed as the regressives/reactionaries. And actually minorities get rights all the time in democracies? Gay folks make up ten percent of the population but Indiana is facing nationwide boycotts over recent legislation. The US Supreme Court has made a number of rulings re: minority rights, even when a majority opposed what they did, which is how you got integrated schools and interracial marriage in the US thirty to forty years before it had popular approval. And you know who has the right to censor what's in Obsidian's video game? Obsidian. And they did. You lose. Neener neener. Just curious - if I were to find someone offended by the game's involving rapes and abortions, will you also not discount their personal views on the subject and agree that the content should be changed to something that will offend /less/ people?

So you acknowledge that Obsidian is the authority ruling the regime (the development of the game)? If you like, buddy. Self-censorship isn't really censorship in the sense people are using it, though. It's not an outside force imposing this on Obsidian. They could easily ignore the complaints and it would go away, the same way they're not paying much heed to your complaints, and you will eventually move on to the next outrage. Honestly, the only difference between the so-called "SJWs" and the people who oppose them is what they find outrageous. It's the same tactics and often the same sense of entitlement. Of course, the SJW group is responding to discrimination, whether real or perceived, while the anti-SJW group is claiming that listening to the SJWs will lead to the Fourth Reich, so one group strikes me as the more reasonable of the two. "Self-censorship" is actually considerably more dangerous because it allows the perpetrators of the censorship to get away with it without taking the blame of what they're doing. Here is the definition of Self-censorship: control of what you say or do in order to avoid annoying or offending others, but without being told officially that such control is necessary: If you're okay with Obsidian changing their art to avoid complaints, then that's okay, just don't forget that there are others in the world who expect others to stand for the things they create. I got nothing to do with GamerGate and don't have to deal with SJWs enough to develop an opinion on them, but if this is the sort of thing that GG is about - not compromising your art while lying to your fanbase about why you're doing it (Which is probably the most bothersome part of this. Doesn't "fit the tone," come on guys) then GG probably has a reasonable point to make on this particular subject.

UHHH...seriously? Does equipping any item that way remove all passive buffs every time? If so I'm just gonna put this game down for awhile while they fix it up.

worked for me enough to let me leave. not gonna screw around with this area any further until a patch tho

So anyone found a workaround yet? THis is pretty crippling...

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/72630-raedrics-keep-siege-platform-crashing-game/ This appears to essentially be the same bug. I haven't checked the siege platform in particular but now a few other bits of the castle are giving me crashes in addition to the exits.

I'm also stuck here - can't leave through either of the paths I know of - the sewer and the front door both give me crashes.

I was doing the Raedric's Keep quest and realized I was underpowered so tried leaving through the way I came in and the game crashes everytime. Intead I decided to just move forward and managed to get to Raedric so I could exit through the other way and it crashed there too. Basically anyway I try to leave crashes but I can do anything/everything in the castle. Stuck until this is fixed...