The ONLY reason Palpatine has any real power at all, is because he has the Kyber Crystal. Without it, Palpatine is a chump. The reason Luke is the most powerfull Jedi ever, is because he eventually, destroys the Darkside, Episode IX, he also restored the Jedi Order. Mace Windu is a badass too, if ya do nto think so, watch the Clone Wars Micro Series, and see how the man kicks some a$$. Obiwan is in the top 5 as well.. So the order goes, Luke, Yoda, Obiwan, Anakin then Windu. Obiwan is also considered the luckiest Jedi of all time, and the best Lightsaber wielder of all time. Yoda is considered the best force wielder of all time, Windu is considered th ebest hand-to-hand fighter amongst the jedi of all time, and Anakin is just good all around. If ya want to see something cool. Go to www.supershadow.com and there are lists of most powerfull Jedi an dmost powerfull Sith of all time. I do nto agree with the lists, but it makes soem decent points.