Leafar Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 I always liked the idea of focusing everything on deflection with my rogue and starting combat with a backstab and then let every enemy try to attack me while I deflect and counterattack everything like some kind of dodge tank. So I was wondering if anything even remotely viable can be done in Pillars 2. Maybe when multi-classed. I haven't played the beta or anything so I don't know that much what's available and possible this time around.
TheMetaphysician Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 Somewhere in these forums there is a great riposte-type tank build, but it doesn't use the rogue riposte, it uses the monk's soul mirror and blade turning abilities. I think it was an Unbroken/Nalpaszca. One of Boerer's, if I recall. Looks better than riposte, since riposte only works on a total miss. Blade turning can turn more than just misses.
Boeroer Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 Yes, that was mine. Riposte is crap again - after is was ok in PoE after some patches. Only works in 20% of misses. With Blade Turning you'll reflect all incoming melee damage and with Soul Mirror some ranged attacks as well. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
omgFIREBALLS Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 Looks better than riposte, since riposte only works on a total miss. Seems even then it doesn't always work, judging from tooltip. Says it just has a chance. This would be a cool build though, so I hope OP makes it work. Without involving monks, I'm not a fan of monks. My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here!
Boeroer Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 The chance is 20%. In PoE it was 30% of grazes and 20% of misses. In my opinion it's not worth an ability point in its current state. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Mack Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) It was a mediocre build even in POE when riposte was stronger. Edited May 6, 2018 by Mack
Leafar Posted May 6, 2018 Author Posted May 6, 2018 Yeah this sounds kinda demoralizing, but maybe you can combine Blade Turning with riposte unless that's redundant? I guess I'll try out several things.
Mack Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) If they modify Riposte so it procs more often I can see it being an interesting experiment, but till then I wouldn't bother building around it. On the other hand you could just build a very solid, tanky swashbuckler (Streetfighter/Unbroken jumps to mind), give him Riposte, and see what happens. Edited May 6, 2018 by Mack
z_liquid Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 You could multiclass rogue with wizard and pick a bonus deflection spell like arcane veil to work with riposte. Kinda tempted to turn my Aloth into that, just to see how it would work. If they modify Riposte so it procs more often I can see it being an interesting experiment, but till then I wouldn't bother building around it. On the other hand you could just build a very solid, tanky swashbuckler (Streetfighter/Unbroken jumps to mind), give him Riposte, and see what happens. You'd really need a shield with bashing and focus a lot more on offensive attributes. Full attack from just a primary weapon won't do too much I think.
Boeroer Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 With a dagger you can also get to quite high deflection values - don't necessarily need a shield. But the 20% on misses is just bad. Blade Turning works on 100% of all grazes/hits/crits while Riposte works only on 20% of all misses - so in theory this could be stacked I guess. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
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