Manty5 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) I've been looking through the build archives, and some of the builds favor offensive scroll use: Like The Engineer using Sunder and Scon Mica's Roar to debuff the enemy before a barrage of missiles, or the Wizard's Apprentice to use a thief's hit to crit conversion and deathblows to amp the damage. But against a target that you haven't stacked 2 deathblow-qualifying debuffs on, wouldn't a Paladin do even better? You'd have to get someone else to drop the DR like a cipher, but a paladin applying Sworn enemy and FoD'd Scon Mica's Roar would practically guarantee every pellet at least hits, giving you the full -30 debuff to all defenses, on top of the +20 accuracy Sworn enemy already gives. Following that up with a missile scroll barrage would be a critfest. So while a scroll-thief would probably do better DPS-wise on a single target, a paladin would be comparable damage AND get all the other nice party-based things that paladins bring to the table. Or maybe there's a problem with this idea that I don't know about. For example, would a paladin's high INT extend the disorienting effect or not? Edited March 21, 2018 by Manty5
MountainTiger Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think the main reason those are the scroll builds here is that Boeroer liked the concepts. Assuming the Goldpact Knight and Bleak Walker on-kill procs work with scrolls, you could get a lot more out of them than a conventional build.
hansvedic Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think the main reason those are the scroll builds here is that Boeroer liked the concepts. Assuming the Goldpact Knight and Bleak Walker on-kill procs work with scrolls, you could get a lot more out of them than a conventional build. Did you mean the Kind Wayfarers & Bleak Walkers on-kill procs? I don't think the Goldpact Knights have an on-kill proc (in PoE 1 at least).
Elric Galad Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 It is basically the reason behind this build, except it is mostly about items instead of scrolls :https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/89995-class-build-counselor-ploi-charming-paladin-supporter-tank/
Boeroer Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Scon Mica's Roar doesn't reduce enemies' defenses by -30. Disorienting no longer stacks, so it's just -5. The best scroll user in terms of accuracy is a fighter (30 starting + 20 from Disciplined Barrage) or a rogue in terms of damage (Deathblows + Deep Wounds). Paladins are good against one single target with Sworn Enemy. 2 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Torm51 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Ya I read this wrong lol Edited March 23, 2018 by Torm51 Have gun will travel.
Boeroer Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 That's not really a scroll. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Manty5 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Posted March 23, 2018 Scon Mica's Roar doesn't reduce enemies' defenses by -30. Disorienting no longer stacks, so it's just -5. The best scroll user in terms of accuracy is a fighter (30 starting + 20 from Disciplined Barrage) or a rogue in terms of damage (Deathblows + Deep Wounds). Paladins are good against one single target with Sworn Enemy. Thanks for letting me know. I was just trusting the main post in The Engineer build. So a paladin scroll-user would be mostly doing it for the on-kill procs, so that you don't have to move to the enemy you're about to kill.
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