Aramintai Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Teir Evron is ancient so it should contain shrines of all the original gods. Why Eothas's shrine and constellation are completely missing? He's been "dead" only for 15 years. And since apparently it's impossible to completely kill a god, take Woedica or Abydon for example, he should still be out there somewhere licking his wounds. Is this an oversight, or devs deliberatly removed him so that the protagonist won't ask him any plot breaking questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julle Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 he ded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house2fly Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 A bunch of gods seem to double up. Eothas probably roomed with Hylea or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I seem to remember that he has an altar, but it is silent. That said, it does seem Eothas is written off in a number of ways: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/78816-council-of-stars-teir-evron-why-are-so-many-deities-missing/ Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivmusique Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I don't think those little altars were dedicated to specific gods. The twins say something about addressing the god closest to whatever altar, meaning they move around (though in game they never change). Eothas' constellation is probably not there because he's dead/hiding. Not too related, but I recall Eothas being referred to as a younger god somewhere, but I had a quick look at the collector's book and the wiki and there's not really anything there. Is this something that is brought up somewhere, or have I imagined it? Because from that + what we learn about the origin of the gods + Eothas/Woedica's crown symbolism I had a loose idea that Eothas had come about from Woedica's initial beatdown (that took away her status as leader among the gods, that Thaos was trying to undo) somehow, a kind of splinter of Woedica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsaving Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Eothas' absence from Teir Evron was likely a very specific design decision rather than an oversight. Like many other "facts" learned over the course of the game, the apparently permanent demise of Eothas isn't quite as clear cut as it might seem, with a small minority believing he never died at all and others speculating he may have been renewed or reborn following the Godhammer incident -- which actually isn't quite as odd as it might sound since renewal/rebirth is his portfolio and the Forgotten Realms deity on which he was based, Lathander, has similarly returned from apparent death after a well-intentioned but ill-fated attempt to reshape world events. Including an altar to Eothas would likely have given players more answers than the devs wanted to provide, hence the decision to exclude him from Teir Evron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramintai Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 A bunch of gods seem to double up. Eothas probably roomed with Hylea or something Yea, he fits with Hylea the most, I think. Still there's no constellation or mention of him at her shrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramintai Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 I seem to remember that he has an altar, but it is silent. No he doesn't have an altar, the silent ones are Woedica's and Wael's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramintai Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Eothas' absence from Teir Evron was likely a very specific design decision rather than an oversight. Like many other "facts" learned over the course of the game, the apparently permanent demise of Eothas isn't quite as clear cut as it might seem, with a small minority believing he never died at all and others speculating he may have been renewed or reborn following the Godhammer incident -- which actually isn't quite as odd as it might sound since renewal/rebirth is his portfolio and the Forgotten Realms deity on which he was based, Lathander, has similarly returned from apparent death after a well-intentioned but ill-fated attempt to reshape world events. Including an altar to Eothas would likely have given players more answers than the devs wanted to provide, hence the decision to exclude him from Teir Evron. Yea, I have a hard time believing he's dead after playing White March and learning how Abydon became a golem. Also, it seems Woedica met a similar fate as Eothas a long time ago - she was burned by Magran and got dethroned. But now she's slowly regaining her power, thanks in no small part to the Leaden Key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinysalamander Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Eothas' shrine is in your heart. 6 Pillars of Bugothas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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