I'm speechless in a positive way.

Remains to be seen, whether it makes enough of a difference, but it's a start.

Well, I've seen ranged, disengaged enemies dodge out of the AOE of spells then go back to attacking. Not to mention switching to targets most likely to be knocked out (regardless of deflection), switching positions just to trigger Flanked, enemies engaging a passing unit just long enough to trigger a disengagement attack then switching back to the main target, etc.

 

It's looking good so far.

I like what I'm reading.

They also seem more eager to just run past your tanks to target weaker party members if they have the chance, I managed to get myself killed in the bandit encounter in black meadow from everyone just ignoring Edér and going straight for my casters in a way I've never seen them do before, took me completely by surprise.

 

That could maybe be because I had skipped Defender since it was nerfed though.

 

I think the difference is most apparent in fights on open ground rather than in close quarters where they have nowhere to run from AoE and can't run past your tank.

Edited August 8, 201510 yr by limaxophobiacq

Well, I've seen ranged, disengaged enemies dodge out of the AOE of spells then go back to attacking. Not to mention switching to targets most likely to be knocked out (regardless of deflection), switching positions just to trigger Flanked, enemies engaging a passing unit just long enough to trigger a disengagement attack then switching back to the main target, etc.

 

It's looking good so far.

My hype meter is starting to trigger.

They also seem more eager to just run past your tanks to target weaker party members if they have the chance, I managed to get myself killed in the bandit encounter in black meadow from everyone just ignoring Edér and going straight for my casters in a way I've never seen them do before, took me completely by surprise.

 

That could maybe be because I had skipped Defender since it was nerfed though.

 

I think the difference is most apparent in fights on open ground rather than in close quarters where they have nowhere to run from AoE and can't run past your tank.

 

 

I have two questions from this:

 

1) How was Defender nerfed?

 

2) Do effects like Defender, Hold the Line, and Guarding, which increase engagement limit, have any observable effect on the AI now, as far as helping to actually, you know, hold the line?

 

They also seem more eager to just run past your tanks to target weaker party members if they have the chance, I managed to get myself killed in the bandit encounter in black meadow from everyone just ignoring Edér and going straight for my casters in a way I've never seen them do before, took me completely by surprise.

 

That could maybe be because I had skipped Defender since it was nerfed though.

 

I think the difference is most apparent in fights on open ground rather than in close quarters where they have nowhere to run from AoE and can't run past your tank.

 

 

 

I have two questions from this:

 

1) How was Defender nerfed?

 

2) Do effects like Defender, Hold the Line, and Guarding, which increase engagement limit, have any observable effect on the AI now, as far as helping to actually, you know, hold the line?

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/81009-defender-20-beta-nerf/?do=findComment&comment=1718622

Oh ... attempts at avoiding engagement would not be an improvement as it would result in the same old kiting again, wouldn't it? It's worse enough with Fampyrs already and not enough room to retreat and regroup.

I hope enemies chase properly now without giving up and becoming disoriented after a while.

Oh ... attempts at avoiding engagement would not be an improvement as it would result in the same old kiting again, wouldn't it?

 

Kiting is not inherently evil. It is a play style like many others. If you like it, you do it; if not, you don't.

 

It should not be the game mechanics' job to actively prevent it. It's like actively preventing min/maxing, soloing, running around with a full-melee or full-caster party, etc..

Edited August 9, 201510 yr by AndreaColombo

 

Kiting is not inherently evil. It is a play style like many others. If you like it, you do it; if not, you don't.

 

It should not be the game mechanics' job to actively prevent it. 

 

 

Of course it should. Something that is always 100% invincible against all enemies that are slower/equally fast and melee, regardless of relative power, is not good gameplay. 

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Edited August 9, 201510 yr by Raven Darkholme

 

 

Kiting is not inherently evil. It is a play style like many others. If you like it, you do it; if not, you don't.

 

It should not be the game mechanics' job to actively prevent it. 

 

 

Of course it should. Something that is always 100% invincible against all enemies that are slower/equally fast and melee, regardless of relative power, is not good gameplay. 

 

 

Sez You.

Me, I couldn't be bothered with kiting.