For monk RP players- 10 DR cloth (IE mod used- not legal obtained!)

[Voltron]

Hello,

 

So we all know monks suffer in this game not having any decent echanted robes/cloth that could justify not taking Plate Armor.

 

I am playing now my monk just for RP fun on solo PotD and I really did not want him to wear Plate but still having good DR.

 

By accident I discovered this cloth:

 

 

Its 10 DR, 0/12 Enchant, so you can enchat it and it has 0,15% recover time. In Description you can see -40% but this is wrong. I tested it using some other found cloth in game and it truly have -15% Recovery Speed, so you can still have super attack speed on your monk.

 

If you want to have this item, download IE mod, install it. Press ` (tilde) in game and type the following:

 

"Additem fampyr_cloth_armor 1" and you will get one.

 

I think it is decent option for all of us who were dissapointed by lacking of decent cloth/robe gear for a monk in game. I know min-max is important, but this is still RPG game and I think that maybe it will give some players more joy from playing monk.

 

Cheers!

Edited April 25, 2015 by Voltron

[Raven Darkholme]

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

[gkathellar]

I'm not sure why wearing cloth makes for better roleplaying, since this is a monk.

 

Edited April 25, 2015 by gkathellar

[Crucis]

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

 

I'm not so sure that I'd call what he's done is cheating.  After all those robes may look like robes, but they have the DR and recovery time of a suit of armor.  He could wear robes with the weak stats for the look, or wear the armor for the stats.  All he's doing is wearing robes that have the pros and cons of armor.  Not seeing this as a significant cheat.  Now, if those robes has 10 DR with the recovery time of robes, then you'd have a point.

[Raven Darkholme]

 

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

 

 

 

I'm not so sure that I'd call what he's done is cheating.  After all those robes may look like robes, but they have the DR and recovery time of a suit of armor.  He could wear robes with the weak stats for the look, or wear the armor for the stats.  All he's doing is wearing robes that have the pros and cons of armor.  Not seeing this as a significant cheat.  Now, if those robes has 10 DR with the recovery time of robes, then you'd have a point.

Read his post he didn't find them ingame.

[Crucis]

I'm not sure why wearing cloth makes for better roleplaying, since this is a monk.

 

 

It would be nice if monks were more than being about unarmed combat specialists.  OTOH, the more you move away from the unarmed monk paradigm, the more they look like some form of fighter or rogue or whatever, and become less unique.

 

That said, I suppose that monks could be tweaked to remove the strong emphasis on unarmed combat and try to merge the general concept with armed combat.  They might have a combat style that favored speed and hitting power over the more balanced approach of the fighter class, but without becoming a clone of barbarians or rogues.  Of course, I suppose that there will always be people who like the unarmed martial artist style monk.

 

One thing that I'd suggest would be a weapon focus group that focused on stereotypical asian mink-like weapons, even if PoE's using more European versions of them.   Weapons like daggers, sabers (as a replacement for katanas), Qstaffs, spears, and bows.  In fact, if one wanted to really drive home that these are monk weapons, perhaps the class could have a penalty for using weapons that aren't in this set of weapons right at level one, with the point being that one reason that monks are special is their intensive training on this specific group of weapons, plus the idea that weapons outside this group don't really work for the class' unique fighting style (particularly the melee weapons). 

 

Anyways, just some ideas.

[Crucis]

 

 

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

 

 

I'm not so sure that I'd call what he's done is cheating.  After all those robes may look like robes, but they have the DR and recovery time of a suit of armor.  He could wear robes with the weak stats for the look, or wear the armor for the stats.  All he's doing is wearing robes that have the pros and cons of armor.  Not seeing this as a significant cheat.  Now, if those robes has 10 DR with the recovery time of robes, then you'd have a point.

Read his post he didn't find them ingame.

 

 

I did read his post from start to finish.  You're making a big deal over nothing.  He's basically wearing armor that's been skinned to look like robes, though the elemental DR's seem a bit much.  Regardless, his robe skinned armor has the recovery time and base DR of a Fine Breastplate.

[Voltron]

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

 

Lol...first of all- I stated in thread title - NOT LEGAL OBTAINED. Got the point before you got here?

 

Second- I wrote that I found robe for ROLE PLAYING purpouse. For some of us this game is still RPG you know? I want to ROLE PLAY my monk. Plate armor do not allow me for enough immersion.

 

This is to be used by those who would like to role play their monk more in game. You can use it but you do not have to. Cheats are here and you can't tell if someone used them or not. It is not MMO...

 

And last this- you have nothing to say how I play my own single player game. I beat TC legal two time, beat game 4 times in total. Now I want to focus more on Role Playing and fun. I though someone who care more about role playing their char in RPG game then stats and numbers may appreciate it.

 

Cheers.

Edited April 25, 2015 by Voltron

[Nadrac]

What's wrong with plate ? Monk is not Superman, if you want to go without armor to punch faster you can do that but its risky but you can make it work with party composition. Warrior monks wore the heaviest armor they could.

 

I get it, i am familiar with the type, skin and fist as hard as steel. Playing that way is fine, just saying that Obsidians take on monks is not wrong and don't need anything to RP it. Maybe give them a shot before you call them immersion breaking, you can play around with different level of protection, don't have to go plate or nothing.

[Crucis]

 

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

 

Lol...first of all- I stated in thread title - NOT LEGAL OBTAINED. Got the point before you got here?

 

Second- I wrote that I found robe for ROLE PLAYING purpouse. For some of us this game is still RPG you know? I want to ROLE PLAY my monk. Plate armor do not allow me for enough immersion.

 

This is to be used by those who would like to role play their monk more in game. You can use it but you do not have to. Cheats are here and you can't tell if someone used them or not. It is not MMO...

 

And last this- you have nothing to say how I play my own single player game. I beat TC legal two time, beat game 4 times in total. Now I want to focus more on Role Playing and fun. I though someone who care more about role playing their char in RPG game then stats and numbers may appreciate it.

 

Cheers.

 

 

Actually, he can "say" whatever he likes about how you play your own game.  You can just ignore him as much as you want. 

 

[Voltron]

What's wrong with plate ? Monk is not Superman, if you want to go without armor to punch faster you can do that but its risky but you can make it work with party composition. Warrior monks wore the heaviest armor they could.

 

I get it, i am familiar with the type, skin and fist as hard as steel. Playing that way is fine, just saying that Obsidians take on monks is not wrong and don't need anything to RP it. Maybe give them a shot before you call them immersion breaking, you can play around with different level of protection, don't have to go plate or nothing.

 

I have my own immersion- thank you. And sorry but I beat this game solo Potd and TC enough that I know that in solo- it is plate or nothing. This is just how this game work.

 

I prefer classic fantasy RPG monk theme- robes/cloth and fists or small weapons/long weapons, like kamas, spears, staffs etc. If I would like to wear plate I'd go Paladin or Fighter.

 

I beat game solo PotD with Barbarian 2x, Rogue and Druid. Each time I had to use plate armor. There is no other way in solo.

 

So, I get that Obsiadian take on Rogues is different, so if someone like Rogue in Plate Armor- fine with me. I don't.

 

 

 

 

 

Really? Monks suffer, so you have to cheat?

Monks are super strong...

 

Lol...first of all- I stated in thread title - NOT LEGAL OBTAINED. Got the point before you got here?

 

Second- I wrote that I found robe for ROLE PLAYING purpouse. For some of us this game is still RPG you know? I want to ROLE PLAY my monk. Plate armor do not allow me for enough immersion.

 

This is to be used by those who would like to role play their monk more in game. You can use it but you do not have to. Cheats are here and you can't tell if someone used them or not. It is not MMO...

 

And last this- you have nothing to say how I play my own single player game. I beat TC legal two time, beat game 4 times in total. Now I want to focus more on Role Playing and fun. I though someone who care more about role playing their char in RPG game then stats and numbers may appreciate it.

 

Cheers.

 

 

Actually, he can "say" whatever he likes about how you play your own game.  You can just ignore him as much as you want. 

 

 

 

True. I stand corrected.

Edited April 25, 2015 by Voltron

[Crucis]

What's wrong with plate ? Monk is not Superman, if you want to go without armor to punch faster you can do that but its risky but you can make it work with party composition. Warrior monks wore the heaviest armor they could.

 

I get it, i am familiar with the type, skin and fist as hard as steel. Playing that way is fine, just saying that Obsidians take on monks is not wrong and don't need anything to RP it. Maybe give them a shot before you call them immersion breaking, you can play around with different level of protection, don't have to go plate or nothing.

 

Plate seems a bit much.  Regardless, it seems to me the issue here is that the monk class seems to be fairly heavily aimed towards unarmed combat. And from what I've seen thus far, the more you armor up a monk, the less he seems like martial artist and the more he seems like a fighter with a slightly different set of talents.

 

Also, IIRC, isn't the Torment's Reach's "maneuver" a kick?  (I could be wrong on this.)  The idea of a plate wearing monk kicking an enemy seems wrong.  Heck, the idea of a plate wearing monk using fists seems really strange too.  Also, given that some of their class abilities are have time based durations, the heavier their armor, the fewer chances they'll have to make attacks.  It's a rather delicate balance.  You need to take some damage to get "wounds" to power their special abilities, but not too much.  At the same time, you want to be able to be as quick as possible to be able to make as many attacks in the limited time you have while those abilities are active.

 

I suppose that one could not bother using the time-based abilities (like swift strikes) and focus on those that would work better for a slower, armed and armored type of monk.