US DoJ shutting down bank accounts of people it just doesn't like

[Walsingham]

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Now, I think my right wing security state credentials are pretty sound. So when I blow up and say WTF, then I recommend you check it out.

 

In a nutshell, the US DoJ are coercing banks into refusing accounts to individuals and industries they consider unsavoury. NOT illegal, just unsavoury.

 

Firstly this is a civil rights issue, and I'm sure ther are bigger civil rights types on the forum who will elaborate the point for me.

 

Secondly, and this is my area, why the ungodly **** is the DoJ wasting resources on targeting peopl who are engaged in completely legal businesses? These are not industries who contribute(except in the most tangential way) to genuine threats like terrorism or serious organised crime. If anything many of these businesses, by being legitimate and filing tax returns and so on, actually HELP AGAINST those sorts of threats.

 

I'm tempted to write a polite enquiry to the US Embassy. If you actually elect someone in the United States, ring up their office and ask what the hell is going on. Quick phonecall. Let us know what the deal is.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Walsingham

[Meshugger]

If this is true, I could write a long segment about the separation of powers, the judicial process and the policy on customer rights, all in a most eloquent and succinct manner.

 

But i think a more ungentlemanny, direct and hard approach is needed for the DoJ. "**** you, **** your kind, **** everything that you stand for and may god have mercy on your soul, because your flesh is most certainly not getting it".

 

Sorry, but injustice get the worst of me and sets me in a pretty primitive mode.

[Guard Dog]

This surprises you? Well, lets just see. The Obama admin has teams of lawyers writing legal briefs on how they would be justified in using the US military against US citizens on US soil. They have already stated it's perfectly ok to use drones to kill US citizens with no trial or anything else that resembles due process. The IRS is actively hunting down any group that even sounds like it might oppose the administrations politics despite actually being caught and exposed doing it. It is the law of the land that not only can they take your home and not give you a nickel for it to use for public projects they can also take it away and give it to someone else to use for private projects. And if you object or have the audacity  to take them to court they get to finically destroy you to boot (if the unrecompensed loss of you home did not already do that). Every e-mail and sms message sent in the country is filtered and screened then stored forever. They want to track our movements by tracking our license plates. They want to take away private gun ownership, compel you under penalty of law to enter into private contracts with companies they sponsor, use your tax dollars to save union jobs and screw the rest and if you try to object to any of this you must be a racist because the guy in charge of this leftist cabal happens to be black.

 

We stopped being a free country the day those planes hit the world trade center I'm sorry to say. Although the trend has been going the wrong way for years. Then in 2008 & 2012 the voters put what freedom they had remaining and served it up to the left on a silver platter. Short of secession of armed conflict I don't see how this can be reversed. The best we can hope for it to slow it down.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Guard Dog

[Rosbjerg]

That's not leftist, that's corporatism .. You'd have full support from socialist here to shut that down too. In fact we're suffering under some of the same problems here and everyone hates it. The problem is that money is getting in the way, not politics.

[Guard Dog]

Ros, leftists in the US married corporatism a few years back.  And oh what ugly children that union is producing.

[Bryy]

We stopped being a free country the day those planes hit the world trade center I'm sorry to say. Although the trend has been going the wrong way for years. Then in 2008 & 2012 the voters put what freedom they had remaining and served it up to the left on a silver platter. Short of secession of armed conflict I don't see how this can be reversed. 

You always have the most hilarious posts.

[Gromnir]

am more o' a conservative when it comes to economic issues, so... whatever.

 

the thing is, the original intent o' the DoJ activities has either been subverted or  peoples is purposeful misrepresenting what is going on for political gain. bank fraud is a huge problem for the DoJ and those payday lenders and online lenders has created so much work for DoJ that situation were being perceived as a bit desperate. espoused intent o' this choke point stuff were to pressure lenders so that they would stop and/or self-report their questionable practices. first choke point victim were not pr0n stars or gun shops, but were a bank.

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-04-25/news/sns-rt-us-usa-banks-payday-20140425_1_four-oaks-bank-operation-choke-point-payday-lenders

 

back in december o' 2013, Darrell Issa ® sends a letter to the Attorney General demanding documents and making claims that DoJ were using choke point to destroy on-line lender industry regardless o' any evidence o' fraud. in interviews and tv appearances, Issa also also claimed that choke point could be used for even less savory purposes o' going 'gainst a multitude o' otherwise innocent business.

 

so, here we is 'bout six months later and we got stories o' a multitude o' legal but unlikable persons and business being targeted by choke point. 

 

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dunno. is republicans fabricating stories to makes democrats look bad before november elections? all seats in the house is up for grabs and 1/3 of senate. is this just scare tactics? there seems to be increasing evidence that the DoJ is being a bit aggressive with choke point.  regardless, especially this close to a major election, things is rare as clear as they seem.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Guard Dog]

 

We stopped being a free country the day those planes hit the world trade center I'm sorry to say. Although the trend has been going the wrong way for years. Then in 2008 & 2012 the voters put what freedom they had remaining and served it up to the left on a silver platter. Short of secession of armed conflict I don't see how this can be reversed. 

You always have the most hilarious posts.

 

Hey a internet forum with no hyperbole is like a peanut butter sandwich with no jelly. You can still eat it but it gets awful dry!   

[Guard Dog]

am more o' a conservative when it comes to economic issues, so... whatever.

 

the thing is, the original intent o' the DoJ activities has either been subverted or  peoples is purposeful misrepresenting what is going on for political gain. bank fraud is a huge problem for the DoJ and those payday lenders and online lenders has created so much work for DoJ that situation were being perceived as a bit desperate. espoused intent o' this choke point stuff were to pressure lenders so that they would stop and/or self-report their questionable practices. first choke point victim were not pr0n stars or gun shops, but were a bank.

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-04-25/news/sns-rt-us-usa-banks-payday-20140425_1_four-oaks-bank-operation-choke-point-payday-lenders

 

back in december o' 2013, Darrell Issa ® sends a letter to the Attorney General demanding documents and making claims that DoJ were using choke point to destroy on-line lender industry regardless o' any evidence o' fraud. in interviews and tv appearances, Issa also also claimed that choke point could be used for even less savory purposes o' going 'gainst a multitude o' otherwise innocent business.

 

so, here we is 'bout six months later and we got stories o' a multitude o' legal but unlikable persons and business being targeted by choke point. 

 

...

 

dunno. is republicans fabricating stories to makes democrats look bad before november elections? all seats in the house is up for grabs and 1/3 of senate. is this just scare tactics? there seems to be increasing evidence that the DoJ is being a bit aggressive with choke point.  regardless, especially this close to a major election, things is rare as clear as they seem.

 

HA! Good Fun!

Republican? Democrat? Sheesh, it's like choosing which butt cheek you want to get the shot in. The only thing I despise more than a republican politician is a democrat politician.

[BruceVC]

 

 

We stopped being a free country the day those planes hit the world trade center I'm sorry to say. Although the trend has been going the wrong way for years. Then in 2008 & 2012 the voters put what freedom they had remaining and served it up to the left on a silver platter. Short of secession of armed conflict I don't see how this can be reversed. 

You always have the most hilarious posts.

 

Hey a internet forum with no hyperbole is like a peanut butter sandwich with no jelly. You can still eat it but it gets awful dry!   

 

 

 

Well said my friend

[Wrath of Dagon]

Obama is the chosen one, he don't need no stinking law.

 

In this case it's not so easy to tell if DOJ is doing something legitimate or not, but as secretive and lawless this administration has been there's no choice but to be very suspicious of their methods and motives. Once thing I will say though, if the government takes your property under Eminent Domain, they do have to give you fair market value in compensation.