The OP seriously thinks you can Kickstarter a game with UE4 with about... 10 people (indie-dev size?).

 

What... 10 year development cycle? How many millions are needed for that?

The OP seriously thinks you can Kickstarter a game with UE4 with about... 10 people (indie-dev size?).

 

 

Actually UE4 is so amazingly streamlined now that 4 people can create a top notch game in 2 years, you should really look into it. That was the whole philosophy behind its creation.

Not sure if serious...

Unreal 4 engine will cost you far more in the long run than unity and I also wonder if there license would demand a cut from the kick starter funds.

 

The OP seriously thinks you can Kickstarter a game with UE4 with about... 10 people (indie-dev size?).

 

 

Actually UE4 is so amazingly streamlined now that 4 people can create a top notch game in 2 years, you should really look into it. That was the whole philosophy behind its creation.

 

I really don't understand the point you think you are making here.

 

PoE is already half done. Do you expect them to scrap everything and do it in UE4?

I was hoping for some critical hits / chunky death like in the IE games.

@Hiro Gibs are in. They even show it in the very short gameplay video.

The OP seriously thinks you can Kickstarter a game with UE4 with about... 10 people (indie-dev size?).

 

What... 10 year development cycle? How many millions are needed for that?

Actually you can get Unreal 4 for 19$/month and 5 % cut from profits as simple standard subscription and I have heard only good things about it's usability. Also using Unreal Engine doesn't mean you have to make AAA quality game with it. It just has been too expensive and too much hassle for indie developers so far and that's part of the reason why Unity hit the jackpot with their engine.

 

I'm glad Epic and Crytek smelled the money Unity is making and jumped on the indie bandwagon with reasonable pricing. Little competition is never bad.

Edited April 29, 201411 yr by Haerski

 

The OP seriously thinks you can Kickstarter a game with UE4 with about... 10 people (indie-dev size?).

 

What... 10 year development cycle? How many millions are needed for that?

Actually you can get Unreal 4 for 19$/month and 5 % cut from profits as simple standard subscription and I have heard only good things about it's usability. Also using Unreal Engine doesn't mean you have to make AAA quality game with it. It just has been too expensive and too much hassle for indie developers so far and that's part of the reason why Unity hit the jackpot with their engine.

 

I'm glad Epic and Crytek smelled the money Unity is making and jumped on the indie bandwagon with reasonable pricing. Little competition is never bad.

 

Hassat's talking about the sheer scope of resources, not just the engine.

 

The OP seriously thinks you can Kickstarter a game with UE4 with about... 10 people (indie-dev size?).

 

 

Actually UE4 is so amazingly streamlined now that 4 people can create a top notch game in 2 years, you should really look into it. That was the whole philosophy behind its creation.

 

Those devs that spent years with 100 persons teams must be realy useless then...

Exactly.

 

Just because something exists doesn't mean it retroactively invalidates what came before.

It's not 5% of profits it's 5% of sales silly. So on selling a copy on steam you would be taking in .65 cents per dollar. So On a 5 dollar game you make 3.25. At 6k copies you paid them the price of a unity license. Your sales are at 30k at that point and you can publish with a free unity license if your business has less than 100k a year sales. I think there is a 12k min on sales of product before the 5% kicks in but I'm assuming that's retro active.

 

That's not including the monthly fee. I just did the math. But correct me if wrong on any part of it.

Edited April 30, 201411 yr by Fatback

 I looked at Titan Quest

 

 

Isn't it amazing how after 8 years it still looks and feels better than most ARPGs out there?

This is what happens when you keep lowering your standards and going the path of least resistence.

Titan Quest is a Diablo clone. I wouldn't quite put it in the category of Unique.

 

 

How the hell is this not great??

I'm really getting sick of this stagnation and active sabotage of progress.

Here however, you have top side view, with large verity of different actions and creatures, with main goal is to distinguish each as much as possible in away that would be best viewed from our preservative, so it seem to me what you suggest is really counter productive.

 

 

And that's why Titan Quest with ragdoll physics feels much better than Torchlight 2??

That's why Diablo 3 and Grim Dawn feel much better than Path of Exile?

 

You have to have rag doll physics in games, emphasis on the PHYSICS as in physicality which brings immersion to the world!

 

 

I'm a huge fan of games like Diablo 3 and Titan Quest and like the rag doll physics in these games. Not because they bring realism to the games, but because they're hilarious to see a chandelier drop on a group of monsters and see them fly a hundred metres in the air, to hit someone and see them fly across the room or in the case of Diablo 3 kill someone and see them stretch across the screen like a rubber band. Dead rubber band guy on the screen. Obviously something wrong with the physics in the game, but funny nonetheless. It's totally ridiculous and fun at the same time.

 

And it doesn't even make sense that a chandelier would make someone fly in the air. Seriously, think about it. A chandelier drops on someone in real life and it would crush them. Not make them fly in the air. Personally, I don't want to see rag doll physics in PoE because it would turn what I believe a serious game into something comical and detract from the realism they're going for. I do want to see chunky death though, because that was good to see in the original IE games.

Edited April 30, 201411 yr by Hiro Protagonist II

 

I do want to see chunky death though, because that was good to see in the original IE games.

 

 I don't rea;lly want to see enemies flying to bits like they did in baldurs gate, to me that's just daft.

 

Some fallout style gory deaths wouldn't go amiss though...