Zoraptor Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Most of historic Khazaria is Ukraine now, so Israel will become just another part of the resurgent Grand Duchy of Kyiv, clearly. They'll need a rebadged Swede to be Grand Duke though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Most of historic Khazaria is Ukraine now, so Israel will become just another part of the resurgent Grand Duchy of Kyiv, clearly. They'll need a rebadged Swede to be Grand Duke though. NOW you're talking. Where do I sign up? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 You really need to be a Swede, I'm afraid, or prove relevant ancestry. Might be stretchable to a generic scandic if there's a lack of applicants, given that people aren't certain where Rurik came from and Sweden is just most likely. And in slightly more relevant news, apparently Arafat was dosed by polonium prior to his sickness and death. Seems unlikely that it will have any direct consequences since most of the people who will be angry at the news will have suspected it for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Here's a link which goes directly to the 108-page Swiss medical report: http://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/killing-arafat/Swiss-forensic-report-Arafat-death-201311671255163780.html Yeah, it's been very much suspected/known he was murdered, which is probably why Al Jazeera went to such lengths to document this. However he had a lot of enemies in Palestinian society, which is why the current Palestinian officials are not really pushing this very hard... However polonium is very hard to come by, it would be interesting to know about how the killers obtained it. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yeah, killing with polonium won't be from any palestinian enemy. Too obscure (pre Litvinenko), too difficult to obtain, has to come from a (very few) external source(s) through an Israeli blockade and most any palestinian would find a 'better' use for it than killing Arafat. Polonium fits someone whose primary motive is to do it not just surreptitiously in terms of who did it, but surreptitiously in terms of it happening at all. Po says Israel and pretty much only Israel, nobody else had motive means and opportunity. I'd suspect the current crop of leaders aren't pushing it hard because they already suspected and they're getting a lot of pressure not to rather than antipathy to Arafat though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Isn't the point about polonium that it only really comes from Russia? I'm sure I read that somewhere, so it must be true. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Most of historic Khazaria is Ukraine now, so Israel will become just another part of the resurgent Grand Duchy of Kyiv, clearly. They'll need a rebadged Swede to be Grand Duke though. Historic Khazaria placed between Don, Volga and North Caucasus. It's Russian territory. And about Sweden... I cant find Sweden on maps even in XII century. How they can invited Swede in 862 AD if in this time nor Sweden, nor Sweden people yet not exist? Isn't the point about polonium that it only really comes from Russia? I'm sure I read that somewhere, so it must be true. Nope http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_5 Anyone can build Polonium in present time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Most of historic Khazaria is Ukraine now, so Israel will become just another part of the resurgent Grand Duchy of Kyiv, clearly. They'll need a rebadged Swede to be Grand Duke though. Historic Khazaria placed between Don, Volga and North Caucasus. It's Russian territory. And about Sweden... I cant find Sweden on maps even in XII century. How they can invited Swede in 862 AD if in this time nor Sweden, nor Sweden people yet not exist? Isn't the point about polonium that it only really comes from Russia? I'm sure I read that somewhere, so it must be true. Nope http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_5 Anyone can build Polonium in present time. Oby you have confirmed what I have always suspected, Sweden was created by powerful Western corporations in the last 100 years in order to breed hot blond women that will conquer the known world and force us to follow one government . Its not a real country !!!! "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Isn't the point about polonium that it only really comes from Russia? I'm sure I read that somewhere, so it must be true. Nope, you basically just need a reactor as it's practically a synthetic element- it has limited uses so isn't made much though most of the commercial stuff does come from Russia, I believe. Israel certainly could make it easily enough, indeed there were persistent rumours that a bunch of scientists in Israel actually died from exposure to polonium a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Teh solution: AMURICA! FUK YEAH! * YOU ARE A WRONGULARITY FROM WHICH NO RIGHT CAN ESCAPE! *Chuck Norris was wrong once - He thought HE made a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 A nuclear final solution. Tasteful. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Tastes are subjective. * YOU ARE A WRONGULARITY FROM WHICH NO RIGHT CAN ESCAPE! *Chuck Norris was wrong once - He thought HE made a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Language, gentlemen. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I only speak in the language of FREEDOM. Which is incedently the same language as guns. * YOU ARE A WRONGULARITY FROM WHICH NO RIGHT CAN ESCAPE! *Chuck Norris was wrong once - He thought HE made a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Oby you have confirmed what I have always suspected, Sweden was created by powerful Western corporations in the last 100 years in order to breed hot blond women that will conquer the known world and force us to follow one government . Its not a real country !!!! Hey, Sweden is doing what we've been doing the last thousand years; Exporting furniture around the world, having you furnish your homes in the fashion we find appealing, so that when the day comes, and we take over the world - we'll find it homey! Ikea is'nt a company; It's a tactic! 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Oby you have confirmed what I have always suspected, Sweden was created by powerful Western corporations in the last 100 years in order to breed hot blond women that will conquer the known world and force us to follow one government . Its not a real country !!!! Hey, Sweden is doing what we've been doing the last thousand years; Exporting furniture around the world, having you furnish your homes in the fashion we find appealing, so that when the day comes, and we take over the world - we'll find it homey! Ikea is'nt a company; It's a tactic! Azdeus would you say Sweden is its own country or do you consider it part of Denmark? Edited November 8, 2013 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 We're a shadowcoalition of the scandinavian countries, made to look like we have a clue with the support of all the others; Oil-money from Norway, cell-phone money from Finland and... pastries and candy money from Denmark. These moneys are used to build up the image of a strong socialist country that acts as a knowitall and made up as something to aspire to as to have the rest of the world be as comfy as possible for us when we finally dig out our horned helmets again! This plan is something that has been started during the Viking Age as we call it, when we kidnapped all the pretty ladies from around Europe and started our export business of goods. I'm pleased to report, it's so far working Just as Planned, and noone has got a clue yet. *Mutters* Part of DENMARK?! The only reason why they were'nt made part of the Swedish EMPIRE is because we DID'NT WANT Denmark!! 3 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 We're a shadowcoalition of the scandinavian countries, made to look like we have a clue with the support of all the others; Oil-money from Norway, cell-phone money from Finland and... pastries and candy money from Denmark. These moneys are used to build up the image of a strong socialist country that acts as a knowitall and made up as something to aspire to as to have the rest of the world be as comfy as possible for us when we finally dig out our horned helmets again! This plan is something that has been started during the Viking Age as we call it, when we kidnapped all the pretty ladies from around Europe and started our export business of goods. I'm pleased to report, it's so far working Just as Planned, and noone has got a clue yet. *Mutters* Part of DENMARK?! The only reason why they were'nt made part of the Swedish EMPIRE is because we DID'NT WANT Denmark!! ...good one I like your sense of humour 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) The polonium essentially means that a country must have backed the murder of Arafat. He obviously had many enemies in Israel, but it's more likely that the actual poisoning was performed by a Palestinian. I think it's very unlikely that the polonium was obtained from any country other than Israel. BTW, here's a report on the leaked Russian investigation: http://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/killing-arafat/experts-question-russian-arafat-findings-2013118102237239238.html Apparently Russia's foreign ministry made efforts as to make it not look like a polonium poisoning... Edited November 9, 2013 by Rostere 1 "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 My conspiracy sense is tingling. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 And about Sweden... I cant find Sweden on maps even in XII century. How they can invited Swede in 862 AD if in this time nor Sweden, nor Sweden people yet not exist? By the way Oby, far be it from me to question your deductive/reading skills, but there are letters making up words on that map, and they say "Svear", "Götar" and "Gotland (Land of the Gutar)". Just for the hell of it, I typed it into wikipedia to see if the english version would recognize it; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tar Svear and Swedes are names for the same thing... And it clearly points out sources mentioning Svear/Swedes from way before 800AD. Just thought I'd drop that in your lap and see where you run with it. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Shame the Swedish royal family is actually french now, or we could have a proper swedish Tsar (not one of those parvenu Romanov johnny come latelies who were, after all, german post Yekaterina the Velikaya anyway) appointed to succeed Putin I and lead Russia and the Ukraine back to glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Wasn't there something there about one of Napoleon's generals getting a field promotion to king there? “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 And about Sweden... I cant find Sweden on maps even in XII century. How they can invited Swede in 862 AD if in this time nor Sweden, nor Sweden people yet not exist? By the way Oby, far be it from me to question your deductive/reading skills, but there are letters making up words on that map, and they say "Svear", "Götar" and "Gotland (Land of the Gutar)". Just for the hell of it, I typed it into wikipedia to see if the english version would recognize it; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tar Svear and Swedes are names for the same thing... And it clearly points out sources mentioning Svear/Swedes from way before 800AD. Just thought I'd drop that in your lap and see where you run with it. Oh, lol, ancient Swedes and other wet naionalistic bull**** from late XIX century. Meanwhile IRL http://sweden.se/society/history-of-sweden/ The Vasa periodThe foundations of the Swedish state were laid during the reign of Gustav Vasa (1523–60). The church was nationalised, its estates confiscated by the crown, and the Protestant Reformation was introduced. Power was concentrated in the hands of the king and hereditary monarchy came into force in 1544. dude, IRL hisorians even don't known who is who during Migration Period and Dark Ages they just have no trustword sources. Historians talk about Germans only after unification quite different ethically states into Germany only in XIX century, and about Swedes only after XVI century by same reason. Before this time nor Germans nor Swedes yet not exist, your nations quite young really (in difference with most old European states/Nation's as France, Poland, Czech and Russia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Wasn't there something there about one of Napoleon's generals getting a field promotion to king there? Bernadotte. Not one of the better marshalls and he actively hated Napoleon despite, iirc, being his brother in law. In a vaguely on topic observation it was one of his descendants who the Stern Gang (or was it the Irgun/ Haganah?) murdered just prior to the partition of Palestine when he was trying to mediate for the UN. Should have gone for one of: Davout- as best marshall MacDonald- could establish a chain of restaurants equivalent to Ikea in ubiquitousness, also possibility of forming United Kingdom of Sweden and Scotland in a year or so time to compensate for losing Norway's North Sea petrodollars. Plus Etienne MacDonald is a very cool name. Poniatowski, despite being a mere general- epically trolling P/Russia and Austria and as a sort of reverse Gustav Adolphus, plus lots of free cores on Poland and Lithuania. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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